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2023/03/21 20:40:19
Subject: BattleTech 'Mercenaries' Kickstarter - First 3 Reward levels and 4" Timber Wolf revealed
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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I think the BA is resin as well -
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2023/03/21 20:46:21
Subject: BattleTech 'Mercenaries' Kickstarter - First 3 Reward levels and 4" Timber Wolf revealed
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Yeah. It looks great too. And is infantry, so in resin might still be a reasonable price. But would be better in plastic. Both for durability and price.
That picture definitely doesn't show any extra detail on the large mechs. So it appears they are just the same files scaled up.
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2023/03/21 20:53:05
Subject: Re:BattleTech 'Mercenaries' Kickstarter - First 3 Reward levels and 4" Timber Wolf revealed
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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2023/03/21 20:59:54
Subject: BattleTech 'Mercenaries' Kickstarter - First 3 Reward levels and 4" Timber Wolf revealed
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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Must admit that the price to stuff of the unveiled levels seems so far... a bit light. We'll see how the KS develops.
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2023/03/21 21:09:45
Subject: BattleTech 'Mercenaries' Kickstarter - First 3 Reward levels and 4" Timber Wolf revealed
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Albertorius wrote:Must admit that the price to stuff of the unveiled levels seems so far... a bit light. We'll see how the KS develops.
Have to wait and see what the Stretch Goals give as free ad-ons.
Many other Kickstarters have set a pretty high bar for free stuff piled on.
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Something is happening on the 24th, we sent you a poster.
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2023/03/21 21:32:21
Subject: BattleTech 'Mercenaries' Kickstarter - First 3 Reward levels and 4" Timber Wolf revealed
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Leader of the Sept
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Albertorius wrote:Must admit that the price to stuff of the unveiled levels seems so far... a bit light. We'll see how the KS develops.
I thought that, but the $150 mark in the clan invasion looked pretty much the same. Clan box, 2 force packs and some merch. The Madcat is basically swapped in for some of the other merch.
As noted above, it will depend on double mech stretch goals and suchlike kicking in.
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Please excuse any spelling errors. I use a tablet frequently and software keyboards are a pain!
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2023/03/21 21:38:37
Subject: Re:BattleTech 'Mercenaries' Kickstarter - First 3 Reward levels and 4" Timber Wolf revealed
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[DCM]
Regular Dakkanaut
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If by "ForcePacks" they also mean the Battlefield Support sets (vees), then the Company Pledge
could net 28 minis (4 vees & 8 Mechs in Core Box + 2 Support sets of 8 vehicles each).
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2023/03/21 22:43:26
Subject: BattleTech 'Mercenaries' Kickstarter - First 3 Reward levels and 4" Timber Wolf revealed
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Swag doesn't include T-Shirts. That sucks.
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2023/03/21 23:53:00
Subject: BattleTech 'Mercenaries' Kickstarter - First 3 Reward levels plus swag and 4" Timber Wolf revealed
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Dakka Veteran
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I have the intuition that the pledges levels and amount of minis in the final offer will be very similar to the Clan Invasion campaign, which was a perfectly decent value. This time they may just double their funding though.
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2023/03/21 23:58:12
Subject: BattleTech 'Mercenaries' Kickstarter - First 3 Reward levels plus swag and 4" Timber Wolf revealed
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Ragin' Ork Dreadnought
Monarchy of TBD
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frankelee wrote:I have the intuition that the pledges levels and amount of minis in the final offer will be very similar to the Clan Invasion campaign, which was a perfectly decent value. This time they may just double their funding though.
I think you're right- the notable omission is the double force packs, which will hurt the overall value of higher level pledges.
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Klawz-Ramming is a subset of citrus fruit?
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2023/03/22 00:07:48
Subject: BattleTech 'Mercenaries' Kickstarter - First 3 Reward levels plus swag and 4" Timber Wolf revealed
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Leader of the Sept
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I can see double forces being a stretch unlock. A good way to get a mid-campaign bump in funding, and they will know very closely from the clan campaign what the impact will be.
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Please excuse any spelling errors. I use a tablet frequently and software keyboards are a pain!
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2023/03/22 00:23:52
Subject: BattleTech 'Mercenaries' Kickstarter - First 3 Reward levels plus swag and 4" Timber Wolf revealed
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Yeah, I absolutely believe extra packs will get unlocked as stretch goals. Otherwise it would be massively cheaper to wait and buy it all from an online retailer, which I think the people at Catalyst are smart enough to realize isn't viable.
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2023/03/22 00:44:27
Subject: BattleTech 'Mercenaries' Kickstarter - First 3 Reward levels plus swag and 4" Timber Wolf revealed
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Battleship Captain
The Land of the Rising Sun
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We will see in time. I'm probably going to join at the company level pledge, and order a bunch of vees.
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2023/03/22 03:56:26
Subject: BattleTech 'Mercenaries' Kickstarter - First 3 Reward levels plus swag and 4" Timber Wolf revealed
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Want to open a store?
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2023/03/22 06:25:02
Subject: BattleTech 'Mercenaries' Kickstarter - First 3 Reward levels plus swag and 4" Timber Wolf revealed
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Second Story Man
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4"/10cm would mean ~20mm scale
that could be a nice scale for infantry as well, suits would not be too big and you could get enough "mass" on the table without going low on machines
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2023/03/22 10:26:51
Subject: Re:BattleTech 'Mercenaries' Kickstarter - First 3 Reward levels plus swag and 4" Timber Wolf revealed
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Highlord with a Blackstone Fortress
Adrift within the vortex of my imagination.
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I am not sold on the 4" mech, its not big enough for a game of battletroops or as a shelf sitter, and the pricetag of $45 is ridiculous.
Methinks they only exist to provide the illusion of a deal, almost every pledge will include one and priced accordingly, yet it will be just as small sprue throw in. Notice how big the mech looks, and how it is visually compared to the 28mm one. It is easy to forget and be misled.
Now if they were to make a plastic kit mech scale dropship, Leopard or Union, that would be a better add on. Take a leaf from Archon Studio who made bigger things than that to throw in. They even made a quad mech in a recent campaign, and you got one for free if you pledged high enough.
Is a plastic Union dropship in this KS far fetched. Not at all. If you pledged for the last Archon Studio campaign you got a Tarrasque, its 14" long and was FREE.
Now Catalyst is not Archon Studio, they don't have the same infrastructure and tooling. But if Catalyst can add useless junk mechs that you cannot use in hard plastic they can make something better that we can. I would settle for a bunker, command post or mech repair gantry or useful obstacle or objective terrain piece.
I am not impressed, and I hope there is a non-entry pledge that doesn't include worthless junk at extra cost. I might start with the intro pledge, I might as well get one, its the only way to get a Vindicator. Though hopefully we will see Retaliation boxes in the campaign. I bought two last time and wish I had bought more.
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n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
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2023/03/22 14:00:41
Subject: BattleTech 'Mercenaries' Kickstarter - First 3 Reward levels and 4" Timber Wolf revealed
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Flinty wrote:
I thought that, but the $150 mark in the clan invasion looked pretty much the same. Clan box, 2 force packs and some merch. The Madcat is basically swapped in for some of the other merch.
As noted above, it will depend on double mech stretch goals and suchlike kicking in.
$95 was the reward level for the Clan Invasion box, 2 lance/stars and Clan Challenge Coin. But that was four years ago and a bit has changed in the world since then.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cgl/battletech-clan-invasion
Edit: Sorry the original rewards delivery date was 2019, can't see on the KS when it launched. 2018?
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2023/03/22 14:21:16
Subject: Re:BattleTech 'Mercenaries' Kickstarter - First 4 Reward levels plus swag and 4" Timber Wolf revealed
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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I hope the 4" mech is in parts so I can easily magnetize it. Also, with the size of it, i'm worried more about shipping costs. I like the large mech, but I also have 2 3D printers and would rather print larger versions of the Mech I want and get another force pack for the price.
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2023/03/22 15:07:28
Subject: Re:BattleTech 'Mercenaries' Kickstarter - First 4 Reward levels plus swag and 4" Timber Wolf revealed
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Highlord with a Blackstone Fortress
Adrift within the vortex of my imagination.
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Theophony wrote:I hope the 4" mech is in parts so I can easily magnetize it. Also, with the size of it, i'm worried more about shipping costs. I like the large mech, but I also have 2 3D printers and would rather print larger versions of the Mech I want and get another force pack for the price.
At the 'value' that Catalyst set a Force Pack costs considerably less. Even so I would exchange any 4" mech for a Force Pack as a straight swap without hesitation.
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n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. |
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2023/03/22 16:26:43
Subject: Re:BattleTech 'Mercenaries' Kickstarter - First 3 Reward levels plus swag and 4" Timber Wolf revealed
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Grisly Ghost Ark Driver
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Orlanth wrote:I am not sold on the 4" mech, its not big enough for a game of battletroops or as a shelf sitter, and the pricetag of $45 is ridiculous.
Methinks they only exist to provide the illusion of a deal, almost every pledge will include one and priced accordingly, yet it will be just as small sprue throw in. Notice how big the mech looks, and how it is visually compared to the 28mm one. It is easy to forget and be misled.
Now if they were to make a plastic kit mech scale dropship, Leopard or Union, that would be a better add on. Take a leaf from Archon Studio who made bigger things than that to throw in. They even made a quad mech in a recent campaign, and you got one for free if you pledged high enough.
Is a plastic Union dropship in this KS far fetched. Not at all. If you pledged for the last Archon Studio campaign you got a Tarrasque, its 14" long and was FREE.
Now Catalyst is not Archon Studio, they don't have the same infrastructure and tooling. But if Catalyst can add useless junk mechs that you cannot use in hard plastic they can make something better that we can. I would settle for a bunker, command post or mech repair gantry or useful obstacle or objective terrain piece.
I am not impressed, and I hope there is a non-entry pledge that doesn't include worthless junk at extra cost. I might start with the intro pledge, I might as well get one, its the only way to get a Vindicator. Though hopefully we will see Retaliation boxes in the campaign. I bought two last time and wish I had bought more.
Full agreement. For me, minis are for use, not display. So that Timber Wolf is worthless to me, or worse, since I'd have to ebay it, and I don't want that hassle. Like Orlanth, I hope there is a pledge without this negative value "bonus". I was looking forward to the KS, but if the only non-Timber Wolf option is the Recruit pledge, I'll wait for retail. I just bought the Beginner Box a month ago, and I have three unread BT novels on my Kindle. So for me, the deal is poor value. It needs more sweetening.
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2023/03/22 17:09:48
Subject: BattleTech 'Mercenaries' Kickstarter - ONE DAY UNTIL LAUNCH!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I suspect there may be a $1 level pledge like the last one for people to just buy a copy of the Mercenaries box in the pledge manager, whether it qualifies for stretch goal goodies is another issue.
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2023/03/22 17:33:47
Subject: BattleTech 'Mercenaries' Kickstarter - ONE DAY UNTIL LAUNCH!
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Fixture of Dakka
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Well, if there's a $1 pledge available day 1, take that and provide polite feedback about how the presence of the 4" Mech is disincentivising you from a larger pledge.
And, no, throwing around "worthless junk" in your comment takes it out of the "polite feedback" bracket.
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2023/03/22 17:46:22
Subject: BattleTech 'Mercenaries' Kickstarter - ONE DAY UNTIL LAUNCH!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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That's a fine idea, and I'll be doing just that. Hopefully they'll allow an exchange for something else, even just patches and pins.
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2023/03/22 18:23:04
Subject: BattleTech 'Mercenaries' Kickstarter - ONE DAY UNTIL LAUNCH!
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Highlord with a Blackstone Fortress
Adrift within the vortex of my imagination.
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Dysartes wrote:Well, if there's a $1 pledge available day 1, take that and provide polite feedback about how the presence of the 4" Mech is disincentivising you from a larger pledge.
And, no, throwing around "worthless junk" in your comment takes it out of the "polite feedback" bracket.
I am happy to work with you on that.
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n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. |
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2023/03/22 21:32:32
Subject: BattleTech 'Mercenaries' Kickstarter - ONE DAY UNTIL LAUNCH!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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At first, I was mildly excited by the 4" Mad Cat because it's nifty. But it's just nifty and as someone just getting into Battletech, I too would rather be able to swap it for another force pack. It won't necessarily dissuade me from one of the larger pledges, but the option sure would be nice.
By the end of the campaign, if I can pick up everything I think I need with just a company pledge, then cool. I'll take the 4" novelty figure. If not, I might drop to a recruit pledge (or drop out entirely) and consider other options. Being able to swap it out for one more force pack might make the difference.
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2023/03/22 22:03:49
Subject: BattleTech 'Mercenaries' Kickstarter - ONE DAY UNTIL LAUNCH!
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Leader of the Sept
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I’m looking forward to it! I’ll have the standard sized one, a 10mm scale one I printed and this one at 20mm scale How many other scales are worth doing I wonder!
Russian Madcats! Make them hollow!
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Please excuse any spelling errors. I use a tablet frequently and software keyboards are a pain!
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2023/03/22 22:53:02
Subject: BattleTech 'Mercenaries' Kickstarter - ONE DAY UNTIL LAUNCH!
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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I have no feelings on the 4" Mad Cat whatsoever.
Anyway...
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2023/03/23 01:45:50
Subject: BattleTech 'Mercenaries' Kickstarter - First 3 Reward levels plus swag and 4" Timber Wolf revealed
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Misread badly.
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2023/03/23 08:20:41
Subject: BattleTech 'Mercenaries' Kickstarter - (All info in OP) ONE DAY UNTIL LAUNCH!
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Dakka Veteran
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I think the ability to trade out the Mad Cat for a couple more force packs would go over quite well. It is such an awkward scale. Even one force pack would work. However they valued it at $45. If that is truly what they think its value is, two lances, or one larger pack and some salvage boxes would be more appropriate.
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2023/03/23 08:33:42
Subject: BattleTech 'Mercenaries' Kickstarter - (All info in OP) ONE DAY UNTIL LAUNCH!
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Thunderhawk Pilot Dropping From Orbit
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Justyn wrote:I think the ability to trade out the Mad Cat for a couple more force packs would go over quite well. It is such an awkward scale. Even one force pack would work. However they valued it at $45. If that is truly what they think its value is, two lances, or one larger pack and some salvage boxes would be more appropriate.
Id be happy with a few salvage boxes even.
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