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Voss wrote:


I've got a set of 'Golgfag's Maneaters' kicking around in my storage area (as well as 'Hrothyogg Ogre Captain' from above who was one of my very first miniatures). They're absurdly tiny for ogres.

Are they? So far as I can tell they look to be ~50mm tall. Which given in 3rd Ed D&D (quite modern for their lineage, happy to have a height reference from contemporary GW) Ogres are 9-11' tall. I suspect they look small through the 2+ decades of GW 'enbigining'.

Meh, color me very unimpressed with the effort GW has put into TOW so far..

Here's hoping that the fact the Empire is last in the shown roadmap means they'll get more new plastic models.

 Dawnbringer wrote:

Voss wrote:


I've got a set of 'Golgfag's Maneaters' kicking around in my storage area (as well as 'Hrothyogg Ogre Captain' from above who was one of my very first miniatures). They're absurdly tiny for ogres.

Are they? So far as I can tell they look to be ~50mm tall. Which given in 3rd Ed D&D (quite modern for their lineage, happy to have a height reference from contemporary GW) Ogres are 9-11' tall. I suspect they look small through the 2+ decades of GW 'enbigining'.

Oh, no. They really are tiny- most of them aren't the ones pictured, but an even older regiment of renown.
A couple were in the box with my old empire models (some of which are 3rd & 4th edition sculpts, before the 'embiggening' or the giant hands period).
They don't even come up to the shoulder of the old hybrid empire knights (plastic horse, metal rider), which themselves are slightly smaller than the all-plastic knights.

Old-Four-Arms wrote:
Here's hoping that the fact the Empire is last in the shown roadmap means they'll get more new plastic models.

You mean the fake roadmap?

Seeing what the Orc release is going to be gives me a slight glimmer of hope that they release the old 4th Ed Chaos Warriors that were around for a LONG time before the new StD Warriors hit.

If they drop some boxes and the upgrades, I'll probably have to grab several handfuls

Those chaos warriors were pretty much impossible to rank up properly, but I imagine it would be easier with the bigger bases.

So there will be two orc boyz plastic kits. Which one is older? Melee one or melee/archers one?

 Shrapnelsmile wrote:

 Fayric wrote:
Also interresting they apparently dont lock cool new ceterpiece models in the armyboxes as a standard MO.
They dont even include a single character in this box, and that strike me as highly unusual.

Apparently a simplified (cheaper) version compared to the two lauch boxes that also had rules (right?)

The Bret and TK boxes are so much more interesting that this one. Considering it also lacks reference sheets, book, etc. I certainly hope the price
does reflect a discount on the kits. If not, I'll just buy what I want piecemeal (more on the Night Goblin and Black Orc side), and go from there.

"hopefully discount box reflects discount on the kits".

That's kind of role of discount boxes


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 Aesthete wrote:
Classic Ogres are back! YES!

I'm disappointed not to see classic Gobbo Wolf Riders on the list, but I'll survive.

"Goblin Wolf Rider Mob"

Returning plastics though bit later. Not that?

Not familiar with wolf riders.

 Shadow Walker wrote:
So there will be two orc boyz plastic kits. Which one is older? Melee one or melee/archers one?

I think the latter may be older, but don't remember for sure.

But the melee/archer one was released as part of the starter set back in the day, they're monopose models, it's maybe the first time GW made easy-build monopose models for a starter set when multipose were part of the general range.

They were okay, I still have a bunch of them, relatively easy to paint, a pain in the arse to rank up, could have used a couple more poses.

Overread wrote:Oh also the epub rules are back for all the rules documents for this game. Not a huge issue for me, but I know it was one of the things people were really unhappy about GW not doing for their mainline games recently. So that's another big boon for Old World

I downloaded the sample for the main rulebook, and it has the same problem as the Legions Imperialus rulebook. Double-page pictures bork the formatting. For Android & Windows anyway, people have said it works fine on Apple.

ETA: Well, this is even more stupider than I thought. Ravening Hordes and Forces of Fantasy handle double page spreads just fine, it is only the main rulebook that is borked.

 MalusCalibur wrote:
So that's another army getting only a couple of characters (fairly uninspiring ones at that) as new models.

If you think either of those new characters qualifies as "fairly uninspiring", I'm sorry, but you're either performing tneva-level bad faith posting, or your calibration of inspiriation is out of whack. Off the top of my head, and without hyperbole, I'd put them ahead of any new Orc models in AOS, and probably ahead of most new Ork models in 40k.

...and I'm saying that as a Dwarf fan, so it isn't even faction bias. Beautiful pair of releases, at least from these pictures.

 MalusCalibur wrote:
Tell me again how TOW is 'a labour of love' rather than one big nostalgia mining excercise?

TOW is a labour of love, not one big nostalgia mining exercise.

At the very worst, it might be a lot of column A, with a bit of column B to get it past the accountants...

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:
So there will be two orc boyz plastic kits. Which one is older? Melee one or melee/archers one?

I think the latter may be older, but don't remember for sure.

But the melee/archer one was released as part of the starter set back in the day, they're monopose models, it's maybe the first time GW made easy-build monopose models for a starter set when multipose were part of the general range.

They were okay, I still have a bunch of them, relatively easy to paint, a pain in the arse to rank up, could have used a couple more poses.

Found the sprue pic of them, and there were four bodies for melee and archers with four poses for each of them. Nice for the skirmish uses but for r&f it would quickly become very repetitive.

WOOOOOOOO no more $200 gobbo boxes! Of course the day I bought a marauder giant GW puts it in made to order, you are welcome for my sacrifice I do wonder though, does this mean GW have ALL the Marauder Miniatures molds 🤔 Wouldn't mind getting some of the chorfs they did...

Looks like The Old World will get RPG support from Cubicle 7 compatible with their 4th edition rule set.

That’s wonderful news.

 Shadow Walker wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:
So there will be two orc boyz plastic kits. Which one is older? Melee one or melee/archers one?

I think the latter may be older, but don't remember for sure.

But the melee/archer one was released as part of the starter set back in the day, they're monopose models, it's maybe the first time GW made easy-build monopose models for a starter set when multipose were part of the general range.

They were okay, I still have a bunch of them, relatively easy to paint, a pain in the arse to rank up, could have used a couple more poses.

Found the sprue pic of them, and there were four bodies for melee and archers with four poses for each of them. Nice for the skirmish uses but for r&f it would quickly become very repetitive.

You should have seen the plastic black orcs of that time period these boys appeared They were all one and the same sculpt sold in boxes of 10 (if i recall correctly).
Dont care much for the orc boys, if I were to play Orcs I would probably rather use savage orcs as plain boys.
These boys introduced the gorilla style orcs and metal faces I always thought looked silly.

 GaroRobe wrote:
Im disappointed by the lack of new plastic models, but they literally had an article last week about how they had to resculpt certain models, created new ones, and are making available stuff never released

As I mentioned earlier, the 'we had to resculpt bits of old models' part has, as of yet, no proof, and sounds a lot like an excuse. Until it can be definitively shown that it's taken place, it's nothing more than marketing speak. The new models they've made have been minimal and mostly characters, and the unreleased stuff amounts to...one Bone Giant head?

 Dysartes wrote:
If you think either of those new characters qualifies as "fairly uninspiring", I'm sorry, but you're either performing tneva-level bad faith posting, or your calibration of inspiriation is out of whack. Off the top of my head, and without hyperbole, I'd put them ahead of any new Orc models in AOS, and probably ahead of most new Ork models in 40k.

...and I'm saying that as a Dwarf fan, so it isn't even faction bias. Beautiful pair of releases, at least from these pictures.

Quite apart from the fact that it's mostly subjective, there's nothing about either of them that strikes me as particularly impressive or interesting. The Bretonnian mounted Damsel was, grudgingly admitted, very nice. But these Orcs? The face on the Warboss is really bad, particularly the mouth which is far too wide (even by Orc standards) and 'gummy' - it robs the model of any menace or threat. The Shaman is...alright, I suppose? But nothing special, and I'm not a fan of the Troll-hood or random crab claw. The whole thing looks too 'AoS'.
And of course, both of them have just a little too much 'GW guff' on them that would make painting a chore.

 Dysartes wrote:
TOW is a labour of love, not one big nostalgia mining exercise.

At the very worst, it might be a lot of column A, with a bit of column B to get it past the accountants...

The evidence so far does not bear this out, which was my point.

 bong264 wrote:
I do wonder though, does this mean GW have ALL the Marauder Miniatures molds 🤔 Wouldn't mind getting some of the chorfs they did...

IIRC, Citadel/GW absorbed Marauder, so they would have taken over the catalogue. I think it's more likely they have the master models, or at least display models that they could use to create new masters, rather than the moulds, though. They mentioned in the articles having to remould a lot of the older stuff... which would make sense, as after all of this time I wouldn't expect the old rubber moulds to still be in usable condition.


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 MalusCalibur wrote:

The evidence so far does not bear this out, which was my point.

And you've made that point more than enough times by now. Move on.

 MalusCalibur wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:
Im disappointed by the lack of new plastic models, but they literally had an article last week about how they had to resculpt certain models, created new ones, and are making available stuff never released

As I mentioned earlier, the 'we had to resculpt bits of old models' part has, as of yet, no proof, and sounds a lot like an excuse. Until it can be definitively shown that it's taken place, it's nothing more than marketing speak. The new models they've made have been minimal and mostly characters, and the unreleased stuff amounts to...one Bone Giant head?

They showed, literally this week, an actual picture of substantial new details they sculpted for the Casket of Souls underneath the lid…

And their claim they changed the joint type on the tomb scorpion would be so easily falsifiable when the model comes out, there’s really no reason not to believe that.

 rybackstun wrote:
Seeing what the Orc release is going to be gives me a slight glimmer of hope that they release the old 4th Ed Chaos Warriors that were around for a LONG time before the new StD Warriors hit.

If they drop some boxes and the upgrades, I'll probably have to grab several handfuls

Ooh, or maybe the possibility of a MTO of the Realm of Chaos champions. No doubt they'll be a bit pricier than the 3 for £5 I remember the blisters being, though.

 Aesthete wrote:

 nathan2004 wrote:
Anyone have suggestions on proxies using GW models for a Chaos Dragon?

You're asking for a current GW product to use as a Chaos Dragon, correct?

I'd look at the Knights Draconis. Wouldn't be too far fetched to convert the Sigmarine rider to a Chaos Warrior type (or replace it altogther). The Dark Elf dragon (with dreadlord / sorceress) could work pretty good to (but are temporarily unavailable in the store right now).

Yep thank you very much for the ideas and to everyone else for explaining what the Marauder Giant is.

Warhammer Community wrote:The Orc and Goblin Tribes are launching with a massive battalion box alongside an Arcane Journal. The former contains 73 plastic miniatures – two Orc Boar Chariots, 31 Orc Boyz (including a champion, a musician, and a standard bearer), and 40 Goblins with command upgrades of their own.

Why is the orc boyz mob 31 models? How do those sprues add up?

tneva82 wrote:
["Goblin Wolf Rider Mob"

Returning plastics though bit later. Not that?

Not familiar with wolf riders.

Exactlyt those! You made my evening

I just failed to see the "returning plastics section". Thank you for pointing them out


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Grail Seeker wrote:
Looks like The Old World will get RPG support from Cubicle 7 compatible with their 4th edition rule set.

That’s wonderful news.

Oh interesting.

 Shakalooloo wrote:

Warhammer Community wrote:The Orc and Goblin Tribes are launching with a massive battalion box alongside an Arcane Journal. The former contains 73 plastic miniatures – two Orc Boar Chariots, 31 Orc Boyz (including a champion, a musician, and a standard bearer), and 40 Goblins with command upgrades of their own.

Why is the orc boyz mob 31 models? How do those sprues add up?

Regular sprues have 4 and the command sprue has 3 dudes. In ye olde times they came in boxes of 19.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

Aren73 wrote:
They way I read it they apparently directly nerfed the PDFs, hitting vampires the hardest.

That seems like an outrageously wild lie, after all anyone who actually knew this would be under NDA.

Anyway it's easy to confirm or deny. If content creators who have Legacy reviews and battle reports ready to go don't publish them same day as the pdfs go up (presumably tomorrow), we'll know it's true. If they publish, it's fake.

I'm not trying to fan the flames, but I've seen at least one influencer during a stream strongly suggest that the legacy pdf release was suddenly delayed and that it interfered with their plans to upload legacy battle reports/army reviews.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 Shakalooloo wrote:

Warhammer Community wrote:The Orc and Goblin Tribes are launching with a massive battalion box alongside an Arcane Journal. The former contains 73 plastic miniatures – two Orc Boar Chariots, 31 Orc Boyz (including a champion, a musician, and a standard bearer), and 40 Goblins with command upgrades of their own.

Why is the orc boyz mob 31 models? How do those sprues add up?

Regular sprues have 4 and the command sprue has 3 dudes. In ye olde times they came in boxes of 19.

Ah yes, I remember that. That reminds me, they used to have the 4 pack of easy build models that were good for filling out the 19 large regiments.

Honestly I'd rather see those 4 packs return than the old Boyz set, though the 4 pack was lacking in head styles.

The lack of any new plastic kit for O&G is a bit surprising. But the 2 new resin sculpts are solid. I hope they put more effort into the Wood Elves than this though. With all these old models coming back i'm really hoping for a resin version of that old chaos sorcerer that had the horns and hood with the tentacle hand around a book, I think it had a face on the back of it's hood as well. I deeply regret not grabbing that sculpt before they replaced it with the far more bland and boring modern one. I really hope any new chaos stuff harkens back to that older style.

 Scottywan82 wrote:

 Pariah Press wrote:
I'm very excited to be able to buy a Marauder Giant for a semi-reasonably price!

I wonder what "classic ogres" are? The Jes Goodwin sculpts? The Michael Perry sculpts?

I think it is these. The names they use for everything seem to match the Citadel Catalogue names.

Spoiler:

I still don't understand why they added a beard to the female ogre after the intial relese even all these years later and I don't think I've ever seem an attempt at an explanation either. Does anyone know more about that?

They explained it when she was released. IIRC, it's the same situation as the Brets, lady ogres aren't allowed to fight, so she's disguised as a boy. The beard is a separate piece, so you can leave it off.

 warboss wrote:

 Scottywan82 wrote:

 Pariah Press wrote:
I'm very excited to be able to buy a Marauder Giant for a semi-reasonably price!

I wonder what "classic ogres" are? The Jes Goodwin sculpts? The Michael Perry sculpts?

I think it is these. The names they use for everything seem to match the Citadel Catalogue names.

Spoiler:

I still don't understand why they added a beard to the female ogre after the intial relese even all these years later and I don't think I've ever seem an attempt at an explanation either. Does anyone know more about that?

I don't remember we're it stated but it not a Female ogre but rather a Male Ogre dress as a female

When working working in the empire he saw a housewife caught her unfaithful husband and proceeded to beat him with such ferocity that the ogre though she was the most terrifying warrior.

 insaniak wrote:
They explained it when she was released. IIRC, it's the same situation as the Brets, lady ogres aren't allowed to fight, so she's disguised as a boy. The beard is a separate piece, so you can leave it off.

I remember this bit of lore as well. I assembled mine without that beard.