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Not Online!!! wrote:

 Grimskul wrote:

 Bobthehero wrote:
Apparently the writers of the game want to stay away from Marines, and based on previous discussions, there would definitely be a bunch of people unhappy with that, claiming our band of 4 should just insta-die against a Marine.

Which is weird when you arguably face things in the game that in the lore are often on par or potentially more dangerous than a Chaos Space Marine (Daemonhost, Beast of Nurgle).

DH can range massivly in power, since it's the entity and resistance of the soul nvm the method of binding the daemon that decide power.

Plague ogryns are like any ogryn unless we are talking charonites but those have died out in the 40k era whilest the beast of nurgle certainly is a tougher cookie but not nearly as agile.

Then again the chaos leader with refractorfield itself is probably due to nurgles blessings on par with a marine roughly.

Yes, daemonhosts will vary wildly in power. But even the weakest Deamonhost is going to be on another level to a basic plague marine.

Hmm. Yes the bolter is fun

Finally got the grenade penance done, same run as an untouched Malice mission!

Gotta do the 90% accuracy and 0 bullets left on Heresy now to wrap up.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Finally got the grenade penance done, same run as an untouched Malice mission!

Gotta do the 90% accuracy and 0 bullets left on Heresy now to wrap up.

I did it with an agripina infantry rifle... by acident.



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 Grey Templar wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:

 Grimskul wrote:

 Bobthehero wrote:
Apparently the writers of the game want to stay away from Marines, and based on previous discussions, there would definitely be a bunch of people unhappy with that, claiming our band of 4 should just insta-die against a Marine.

Which is weird when you arguably face things in the game that in the lore are often on par or potentially more dangerous than a Chaos Space Marine (Daemonhost, Beast of Nurgle).

DH can range massivly in power, since it's the entity and resistance of the soul nvm the method of binding the daemon that decide power.

Plague ogryns are like any ogryn unless we are talking charonites but those have died out in the 40k era whilest the beast of nurgle certainly is a tougher cookie but not nearly as agile.

Then again the chaos leader with refractorfield itself is probably due to nurgles blessings on par with a marine roughly.

Yes, daemonhosts will vary wildly in power. But even the weakest Deamonhost is going to be on another level to a basic plague marine.

No. if i put a nurgling into a human than that human will not compete with a marine, scout nvm an actual marked cult marine.

No daemonhost is going to be made with a Nurgling. Or indeed any lesser daemon. Even if it is theoretically possible. It just won't happen. It'll always be a pretty high level daemon.

 Grey Templar wrote:
No daemonhost is going to be made with a Nurgling. Or indeed any lesser daemon. Even if it is theoretically possible. It just won't happen. It'll always be a pretty high level daemon.

Actually that is unclear, and fwiw the summoning of an actual great daemon, aka everything above a flamer or indeed in the league of a dp ends normally with the sacrifice of either the summoner or victims.

So no, smaller daemons are the inhabitants of the hosts on average with a notable exception beeing cherubael.-

I'm not sure how to feel about the flame thrower. Sometimes it is very awkward other times it seems to work well. More time experimenting is necessary.

 Ahtman wrote:
I'm not sure how to feel about the flame thrower. Sometimes it is very awkward other times it seems to work well. More time experimenting is necessary.

I can tell you as someone whose class doesn't have access to a flamethrower:

Its a huge morale boost to see the hordes of Nurgle in flames.

Though, I did experiment with Smite, the Psykers chained/forked lightning ability and I didn't care for it, so I may have an inkling of how you feel about the flamethrower.

I like that Smite has a 'stun' component to it. Made me feel super useful!

Flamer feels lackluster. Needs more ammo, I think?

Flamer is alright. Yeah, it is redundant if you have a psyker with a flamestaff(which has no ammo and access to better blessings) but it does a good job.

If I had to buff it I would just reduce the time it takes to "deploy". Other than that its fine.



Smite for the psyker is definitely pretty good. Not just for damage, but for the stun ability and it doesn't take up a weapon slot. And since you dont need to head pop anymore for warp charges its even better.

The flamer used to be a lot more powerful and useful, but like with the power sword being quite crap now without the mandatory power cycler, it got nerfed hard for "balancing issues" as per the devs..

 BrookM wrote:
The flamer used to be a lot more powerful and useful, but like with the power sword being quite crap now without the mandatory power cycler, it got nerfed hard for "balancing issues" as per the devs..

you mean is so pointless that the still sluggish keep getting stuck chainaxe is literally a better option for the vet....

Otoh the chainsword is now absurdly good.

Chainsword with the right upgrades is a monster now and my old fall-back the Devil's Claw also still works like a charm against mobs in a pinch, though I mainly let my Lucius do the talking. 😁

Just played a Sedition level game with 3 assail psykers in the party. Talk about easy mode!

I think they got the bolter just right in the feels department. Watching the targets just come apart from a single shot is quite gratifying

In a way it makes sense the chainsword is better than the power sword. I mean I know it isn't supposed to be, but it is more 40k and it's far more visceral and enjoyable to use in combat.

They've made the power swords beyond bad though, needing to reignite it after every hit, the ignition animation itself is a slow one and it just doesn't have the same satisfying feedback as the chainsword.

I also miss the old descriptors used for quality, with Militarum grade for purple and master-crafted for top tier gear, that was very fluffy.

They should buff the single target damage of the power sword to compensate. Really it should just gut anything big while the chainsword is for crowd control.

Got a chainsword for my Psyker and it is indeed wild how much of a gap there is now between it and the power sword.

I liked it when I could activate my power sword and get two good strikes out of it before needing to rekindle the generator, especially when faced with mobs, just hacking through several in a single swing was very satisfying.

My current chainsword is not super good against mobs, but chews through mid-tier single targets in a single heavy blow when revved up, it makes me a target for other enemies, but it's a satisfying process.

Chances are Fatshark will do another rebalance of things and just nerf the crap out of the weapons we use a lot now.

Just once I would like a game designer to react to X>Y by buffing Y not nerfing X.

The choices have been odd, if this were an PVP game I'd understand, but a PVE / cooperative game..? The devs have been very selective about what feedback to give to the community about their choices and the vague roadmap they adhere to.

I've noticed that every mission that has failed involved people ignoring the Netter combined with people playing solo in a group.

It seems to usually go like this: two will be playing Rambo ignoring the group and when one of the two that are working together is netted and the other goes to free the netted player they get netted then the two solo players get picked off by the netter or are just killed.

And that's why I still want them to implement the promised bot support. It's been a rarity for me to find a full group of players that doesn't speedrun / rambo the map every time.

Or the time a rando said "BRB, AFK" and just left his ogryn standing in the middle of nowhere some ways off while we were waiting at the checkpoint for to join us so we could flip the button, but nope.. braindead verm had to leave us hanging like that. So like hell were we going to backtrack and save him from the mutant that spawned in to clobber and chuck him around, one of those rare few times the AI director was not a dill weed about things.

Cosmetic store updated.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Cosmetic store updated.

I just thought the first page was the special cosmetics that rotated, If I had known the Cadian armor set was going to disappear I may have scrounged up the $9 for it.

They rotate and do not get permanently retired IIRC. The current batch on the front page has already been introduced some time ago, I'd give it a few weeks and the Cadian set will return to rotation.

I love the voice acting in this game. I like that for a UK based setting there are no American accents (sorry guys. You're in everything else and that's fine)

I would love even more to know where the voice actors think the accents they're using are from. It's like violent 'Allo 'Allo. It's wonderful.

I still crack up on the female Veteran line about the other character's bad feeling being a problem with their spine

Its glorious.

If you want American accents, give the Honourbound audio book a listen, one of the regiments is made up of "N'ya see!" wiseguys or something.

My female Cadian is still the best haha, just the right mix of professionalism when triggering abilities (BASTION-220!) and that delicious gallows humour. Morrow is a close second, whenever he chimes in with his usual cheery replies, morale just.. soars.

"Oh, look at all those smiling faces. Cheer up! If you were on Armageddon, most of you would be heroes of the endless war by now. Which means you'd be stone dead. Makes you think, don't it?"

Also shows just how much effort has been put into the writing, by fans and people who know the setting, for peeps who love the setting.

I got Honourbound in a Humble Bundle ages ago, must give it another listen. Gave up after the first few chapters because the lead character seemed unpleasant and the narration was a bit flat.

I agree with the humour. They've pitched it just right.