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 cincydooley wrote:
I picked mine up today. Lemme know if you have any questions.

Does it come with the 'new' rulebook (same as the PDF) or is it the same version they passed out at the other con?

 Alex C wrote:
Seriously though, what's the quality like on the cards and tiles?

The cards feel pretty standard in my opinion. The tiles are ... well, I think Decent's are thicker and they sure aren't as thick as Space Hulk but I guess they'll do. Maybe I'll treat them with a layer of glue along the edges to seal tem, but that's rather personal preference.

Are they actually selling copies there or just letting beleaguered KS backers pick up theirs?

Still no sign of mine, although I don't know how much of that is due to my pledge manager having seemingly re-opened itself, and whether the problems in Calais are stopping stuff getting in to the country.

Friend of mine that works in a company that exports is having an absolute nightmare getting stuff out of the country, I guess it must be the same for things coming in also.

never mind

 krazynadechukr wrote:
Got my copy today! These minis are amazing! Box weighed 9 lbs and I ordered online at Prodos Games just 5 days ago!

Not sure if...serious.

Shots fired!

Blood in the streets!





By which I mean that Prodos couldn't have come up with a worse PR move than if they personally insulted every one of our mothers.


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Seriously, that is one crazy 'nade to chuck at the backers.

Yeah.. you've got to laugh at it really.

Had a quick look at the FB page, they are now saying all should be mailed by end of August for UK backers.

 Pacific wrote:
Yeah.. you've got to laugh at it really.

Had a quick look at the FB page, they are now saying all should be mailed by end of August for UK backers.

Next August? lol

As of 11th July "out of the 700 UK backers 300 have already been shipped,"The two backers I know personally are not part of the 300.

Perhaps I've missed news from some happy backers but I only remember hearing from the 50 who picked up at the Expo. I would have hoped by now more of those 300/250 packages would have arrived.

My concern, if valid, is that a later production run may use poorer quality / worn molds than those at used to produce the retail copies now collecting dust at the FLGS.

Somehow I get the feeling, wave 2 will be sold via online store weeks or months prior any update for the backers telling us, we still have to wait.

PomWallaby wrote:
As of 11th July "out of the 700 UK backers 300 have already been shipped,"The two backers I know personally are not part of the 300.

Perhaps I've missed news from some happy backers but I only remember hearing from the 50 who picked up at the Expo. I would have hoped by now more of those 300/250 packages would have arrived.

My concern, if valid, is that a later production run may use poorer quality / worn molds than those at used to produce the retail copies now collecting dust at the FLGS.

The 700 was a lie according to their last updat which said 600 in total has been sent including the yank stock. If I remember correctly.

Still not got mine or heard anything

Moses you done anything with your set yet?

Whatever the number I just checked Prodos' web store and they have 207 boxes available. There is some twisted logic somewhere if it is the backers who need to wait on production. IMO since the retail "contractural obligations" should have been achieved the remaining stock should be sent out and replenished. As I mentioned earlier, there are already loads of boxes available at retail for those who want it (some priced cheaper than directly from Prodos). Sounds like a fiasco.

 JoeRugby wrote:
Moses you done anything with your set yet?

I plan on assembling the minis tonight ... maybe ... caught me one of 'em nice summer colds and feel like crap.

Kinda frustrating that I really want to be having fun with this game and there are backers who actually got their stuff and have done sweet feth all with it

A facebook posting from Questing Knight games in the UK(http://www.questingknightgames.co.uk/)

Re Stocks etc arriving this week include :
............... AVP boxed game re-stocks should also be arriving today..........., great in store prices again on these lines smile emoticon

so not only have they had retail stock, already, they're getting another lot too

I do wish Prodos [I am of course assuming this is direct from Prodos as I don't think there are any UK distributors as such?] would have finishes shipping to the KS backers before throwing this out into the wild in such numbers (especially since they seem so slow in boxing the stuff up)

Lot easier to send a pallet to a distributor than the single copies which make up the pallet load to backers.

AND you get to claim 'We sent out a whole pallet load today!'

 CptJake wrote:
Lot easier to send a pallet to a distributor than the single copies which make up the pallet load to backers.

AND you get to claim 'We sent out a whole pallet load today!'

not that they're actually made that claim yet. They are very vague on how many they've shipped.


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 Alex C wrote:
Kinda frustrating that I really want to be having fun with this game and there are backers who actually got their stuff and have done sweet feth all with it

I think that every time I walk past a parked Ferrari.

Seriously - I grabbed mine at Expo because I was there, and why the bloody hell shouldn't I?

real life is currently getting in the way.

in other news, given how few Prodos have shipped, I'm very glad I took the opportunity.

biggusdoggus wrote:

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 Alex C wrote:
Kinda frustrating that I really want to be having fun with this game and there are backers who actually got their stuff and have done sweet feth all with it

I think that every time I walk past a parked Ferrari.

Seriously - I grabbed mine at Expo because I was there, and why the bloody hell shouldn't I?

real life is currently getting in the way.

in other news, given how few Prodos have shipped, I'm very glad I took the opportunity.

I was mostly kidding around

Mostly...

 Alex C wrote:

biggusdoggus wrote:

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 Alex C wrote:
Kinda frustrating that I really want to be having fun with this game and there are backers who actually got their stuff and have done sweet feth all with it

I think that every time I walk past a parked Ferrari.

Seriously - I grabbed mine at Expo because I was there, and why the bloody hell shouldn't I?

real life is currently getting in the way.

in other news, given how few Prodos have shipped, I'm very glad I took the opportunity.

I was mostly kidding around

Mostly...

haha - so am I - I've built most of the models and started adding pins. I'm desperately trying to finish painting a heroquest set to take on holiday, and then it's on to avp. acrylic bases are on their way.

biggusdoggus wrote:

 CptJake wrote:
Lot easier to send a pallet to a distributor than the single copies which make up the pallet load to backers.

AND you get to claim 'We sent out a whole pallet load today!'

not that they're actually made that claim yet. They are very vague on how many they've shipped.

But they DID count the pallets going to Ninja Division in the 600 they shipped to backers...

and of course the 50 they gave out at Expo are also in that 600.

Realistically the number of parcels that have left Prodos Towers with actual postage stamps on them is awfully low.

The real problem I think is production. We know they've discarded the 7+ part models for 2/3 part ones in the boxset, likely because Fox told them it was too complicated for construction as a boardgame (and since it's supposed to be a general boardgame aimed at non-hobbyist gamers, rightly so). I'd hazard a guess that that decision is one of the reasons approval took so long - they had to get those figures redesigned, re moulded, and then reapproved, and then they had the problem of needing to make all the figures - that's around 115000 models, with no time to do it. They've just (apparently) installed new machines to vastly speed up production, and coincidentally announced their new spincast method of figure production (which uses a sprue of AvP marines in the publicity shot), so the holdup all along has been them - their failure to produce the low part count figures that Fox expected for a boardgame, and now their failure to produce the replacements quickly.

not of course, that they'll admit that.

never mind

So either I'm clumsy, which I doubt, or margins may vary.
I've started assembling the marines (and they'll be all I'm doing today).
But fiddeling those tiny arms in ... seriously, they made the smartgun arms one piece,why not the rest? At least those two guys just handling pulse rifles.
There are little tabs on the arms, but I had to shave them all, so they would fit into their respective slots. I really reccomend dryfitting before glueing.
And another thing is, why model soles?
And no fan of that runnning pose.

After the first minis I must simply ask, why no balljoints?

Next, as glue set, I went through the cards.
Mh, twice the greek alphabet in mission cards, helluva lot tactic cards for the marines but none for the Preds and sure no stat cards.
Checked the other game, there it's present. So, mailing Prodos, hoping they get back to me soon.
Easily explained, they packed two card packs labeled 2 (little holes in the box) and none labeled 3.
Can happen, not mad about it, let's see how this will be handled.

 JoeRugby wrote:

PomWallaby wrote:
As of 11th July "out of the 700 UK backers 300 have already been shipped,"The two backers I know personally are not part of the 300.

Perhaps I've missed news from some happy backers but I only remember hearing from the 50 who picked up at the Expo. I would have hoped by now more of those 300/250 packages would have arrived.

My concern, if valid, is that a later production run may use poorer quality / worn molds than those at used to produce the retail copies now collecting dust at the FLGS.

The 700 was a lie according to their last updat which said 600 in total has been sent including the yank stock. If I remember correctly.

Still not got mine or heard anything

Moses you done anything with your set yet?

What could also potentially be an issue is that, even if they have sent out hundreds to the UK, those could have been sat queuing in a truck at Calais for the past week.

 krazynadechukr wrote:

Yes, I am serious. I went to prodos, paid via paypal, and 5 days later, viola! Pretty stoked! Bought the lv426 "bug hunt" terrain from fantasy arc too and the apc from khuran (?)...

Well being a backer of the KS mails like these makes me sad and a bit angry at Prodos, I got nothing so far while retail and simple mail order gets their stuff...



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 Moses Bad wrote:
So either I'm clumsy, which I doubt, or margins may vary.
I've started assembling the marines (and they'll be all I'm doing today).
But fiddeling those tiny arms in ... seriously, they made the smartgun arms one piece,why not the rest? At least those two guys just handling pulse rifles.
There are little tabs on the arms, but I had to shave them all, so they would fit into their respective slots. I really reccomend dryfitting before glueing.
And another thing is, why model soles?
And no fan of that runnning pose.
...

I know the feeling from their Warzone minis. While most are great minis the assembly can be a REAL pain! (deep down where you can't really scratch...)

 AAN wrote:
Well being a backer of the KS mails like these makes me sad and a bit angry at Prodos, I got nothing so far while retail and simple mail order gets their stuff...

I know the feeling from their Warzone minis. While most are great minis the assembly can be a REAL pain! (deep down where you can't really scratch...)

Yeah, that mushy feeling deep down telling you, to frakk yourself. Like I said, it's sad you have to write an angry mail, to get your stuff (or to move up on their list - 'course, if every backer does that, Prodos woul return to what they are doing now. Handling their first line customers is just ... well, you know yourself how you feel about it.

I'm doing TTs for ... I think I started at 16 with Battletech, so around 23 years by now. If you know BT minis, you know, they can be fiddely at times but never like this.
If this is what Prodos expects the casual gamer to do (not us geeks, we know how to do this stuff), they really have not the slightest about customer base.
Not that their handling of backers proves anything different. But, and I am willing to give them that, other than another popular franchise KS *cough Palladium Books cough*, they reduced part numbers dramatically and evaded moldlines.

I just wonder, haven't read the rules and for those asking, Version 1.1 included, what are those two dials for? The holes in the middle imply, they are supposed to be assembled together, but no connector piece. Flipping through the pages, I've seen nothing of them, so I assume, they are for the wargame.

Was there any timeframe given for the US stuff reaching Ninja Division and being shipped out?

Hearing about web orders being fulfilled inside of a week has clouded my memory...

I'm not sure if it was implied or directly stated, but I was under the impression Ninja Division took some of their stock to GENCON and would ship out the rest during August.

Moses Bad wrote:
I just wonder, haven't read the rules and for those asking, Version 1.1 included, what are those two dials for? The holes in the middle imply, they are supposed to be assembled together, but no connector piece. Flipping through the pages, I've seen nothing of them, so I assume, they are for the wargame.

they are blast/acid spit templates for the wargame. Odd that they included them in the boardgame box - I guess they had space on the cardstock and thought "why not" - ultimately it saves you ordering plastic ones from them or (probably) doing cut-out/photocopy and stick from the wargame rulebook, so I get it, but it does seem to confuse the two products for no good reason. An added concern is that I've seen one gamer on facebook state that he's glad he has multiple copies of the boardgame because he found there aren't quite enough tokens in a single box - in which case, there was probably a better use for the "spare" cardstock space.

Alex C wrote:Was there any timeframe given for the US stuff reaching Ninja Division and being shipped out?

Hearing about web orders being fulfilled inside of a week has clouded my memory...

CptJake wrote:I'm not sure if it was implied or directly stated, but I was under the impression Ninja Division took some of their stock to GENCON and would ship out the rest during August.

No specific timescale beyond a (rather hollow) "hope" to get everything out during August, but yes, they have shipped all North America stuff to Ninja who, having taken a load to GenCon and apparently taken any uncollected ones back, will then begin distribution to NA backers, I'd assume over this next week or so.