Author |
Message |
|
|
|
Advert
|
Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
- No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
- Times and dates in your local timezone.
- Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
- Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
- Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now. |
|
|
2016/12/23 17:49:25
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
|
|
[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
|
Must... resist....!
Some of those do really look fantastic, and the paint job is amazing too
|
|
|
|
2016/12/23 18:04:46
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
|
|
Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
|
RiTides wrote:
Must... resist....!
Some of those do really look fantastic, and the paint job is amazing too
I agree, to bad I've never been able to do the shaven team justice....maybe a new team of them will help
|
LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 |
|
|
|
2016/12/23 18:10:18
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
|
|
Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
|
Maybe don't shave them, either! :-O
|
Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules" |
|
|
|
2016/12/23 19:19:26
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
|
|
Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
|
But I want my rat ogre bald, just like Mr. Bigglesworth.
|
LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 |
|
|
|
2016/12/23 21:05:18
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
|
|
Pustulating Plague Priest
|
Was it willy that ran a campaign for an Asian themed ratmen team?
|
There’s a difference between having a hobby and being a narcissist. |
|
|
|
2016/12/23 21:32:35
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
|
|
Longtime Dakkanaut
|
My copy of BB finally arrived in the mail today. I had ordered along with some Seekers of Slaanesh, so BB got held up until the ladies were ready. Minor slash in my box cover, but it didn't go all the way through. Can't even blame that one on the post lady this time, since it was UNDER the shrink wrap somehow. O_o
Anyway, reading through now and pretty psyched. Received the skaven team a couple weeks ago, so I'm looking forward to trying them out.
|
|
|
|
2016/12/24 00:09:24
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
|
|
Regular Dakkanaut
United States
|
@ Joyboozer, I believe it was Greebo's Hand of death Japanese team you are referring too. Or, Rolljordan's Japanese Tengu rat team.
|
|
|
|
2016/12/24 01:21:36
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
|
|
Pustulating Plague Priest
|
Ernster wrote:@ Joyboozer, I believe it was Greebo's Hand of death Japanese team you are referring too. Or, Rolljordan's Japanese Tengu rat team.
That's the one, cheers
|
There’s a difference between having a hobby and being a narcissist. |
|
|
|
2016/12/24 14:33:14
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
|
|
Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
|
The new Ogre is not too bad.
I guess you can use it for human and skaven.
|
Former moderator 40kOnline
Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!
Illumini: "And thank you for not finishing your post with a "" I'm sorry, but after 7200 's that has to be the most annoying sign-off ever."
Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss |
|
|
|
2016/12/24 16:05:35
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
|
|
Expendable Defender Destroid Rookie
|
I like the Ogre. Almost certainly won't get it unless it goes into general distribution.
|
|
|
|
2016/12/24 20:41:27
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
|
|
Executing Exarch
|
That ogre is fantastic. Love the dynamic pose, mid-run.
|
|
|
|
2016/12/25 06:10:01
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
|
|
Bounding Assault Marine
running amok, against the reality of defeat
|
Link?
|
come join us
greg graffin |
|
|
|
2016/12/25 14:15:42
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
|
|
Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
|
You might want to be a little more specific
|
LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 |
|
|
|
2016/12/29 10:29:22
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
|
|
Nurgle Predator Driver with an Infestation
|
Probably referring to the LE Ogre and Halfling that's been bouncing around the thread a couple times now.
I
If they were general release I would of preordered them in a heartbeat, but alas they are event-exclusive.
Still, I love the purple and cream colour scheme so I'll probably paint my Human team the same way in the vague hope that I can nab Grak and Crumbleberry sometime down the line.
|
|
|
|
|
2016/12/29 11:26:11
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
|
|
Evasive Eshin Assassin
|
sorry if this has been asked but do we know if there is future support planned?
i got a copy for christmas and was wondering if there will be any more teams released.
|
|
|
|
2016/12/29 11:37:46
Subject: Re:Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
|
|
[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
|
yes there will be.
|
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king, |
|
|
|
2016/12/29 11:53:37
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
|
|
Nurgle Predator Driver with an Infestation
|
Dwarves are next I think? Pictures of some of the models have been seen on the app.
Otherwise, all I've read is this;
https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1543
*wishlist* Really hope Skaven gets done more releases like a Rat Ogre or a Star Player (fingers crossed for Hakflem Scuttlespike!)
|
|
|
|
|
2016/12/29 11:53:46
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
|
|
Longtime Dakkanaut
|
Hopefully we should find out more on new years day from the open day
|
|
|
|
2016/12/29 11:58:09
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
|
|
Evasive Eshin Assassin
|
thanks guys.
thanks for the link mister feral.
i didnt know about the app. gonna have to check that out!
|
|
|
|
2016/12/29 23:09:32
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
|
|
Longtime Dakkanaut
|
Not much commenting of the rules at the moment!
I noticed the Rule Book is really bad when it comes to consistency. It seems to be a dummed down version simplified version to only fit Orcs and Humans and barely that.
Compare Sure Hands for instance. In the rule book, it doesn't include protection against strip ball. But in Season One, it does.
Money handling is also different now, if you have more than 100'000 after a game, you must roll on a table to see if you get to keep it or lose some or all of it.
The MVP change from random of whole team to random of a selection seems very good though. Specially for those teams were certain positions seem to take most of the SPP (wood elf catchers and war dancers for instance).
If I measured correctly, it seems Short Pass now has the biggest range instead of Long Pass previously. As far as I was able to measure, this is what I got:
Anyone else feel free to confirm!
I wish the Skaven team would also come with the player cards like in the starter set. And the Star Player cards are very misleading since they don't list all the teams they're available to, only the teams present in the starter box. I guess the player cards will have no value for other than complete noobs.
We're also seeing so many valuable releases either limited to special events (available to just a very tiny fraction) or sold out. I would love to buy the Skaven Dice, the Winter pitch, the additional play card, the ogre and what else... I fear this will just continue.
At the moment I feel like just using the old rules and add the new MVP, Human Catcher price reduction, Skaven Runner new skill, possibly the money handling and the new pass ranges.
|
This message was edited 4 times. Last update was at 2016/12/30 08:36:13
|
|
|
|
2016/12/30 05:42:52
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
|
|
Pustulating Plague Priest
|
Gutter runners have a new skill? All the old stuff was so etched into my brain I never even bothered reading the new rules or cards!
|
There’s a difference between having a hobby and being a narcissist. |
|
|
|
2016/12/30 06:09:49
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
|
|
Veteran Inquisitorial Tyranid Xenokiller
Down Under
|
Joyboozer wrote:Gutter runners have a new skill? All the old stuff was so etched into my brain I never even bothered reading the new rules or cards!
They modeled the Runners with a knife, then tacked on "Weeping Blades" on as a skill because of it.
Let's them reroll injury rolls done by them. Can move a Badly Hurt to something more etc.
Some people lost their minds about that, other people were more "Yeah, so what?" then the world turned and nothing exploded.
|
Glory is fleeting. Obscurity is forever.
|
|
|
|
2016/12/30 06:10:06
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
|
|
Grizzled Space Wolves Great Wolf
|
Yeah, it's only if you're playing a league, "Weeping Dagger", just means if a runner inflicts a casualty and the casualty roll is 11-38, roll a dice and on a 4+ the player has to miss the next game. Automatically Appended Next Post: Vain wrote:Joyboozer wrote:Gutter runners have a new skill? All the old stuff was so etched into my brain I never even bothered reading the new rules or cards!
They modeled the Runners with a knife, then tacked on "Weeping Blades" on as a skill because of it.
Let's them reroll injury rolls done by them. Can move a Badly Hurt to something more etc.
Some people lost their minds about that, other people were more "Yeah, so what?" then the world turned and nothing exploded.
No, it doesn't even let them reroll injury rolls.
I'm not really that in to playing leagues so for me I just read it then forgot about it.
But you rarely ever block with Runners anyway.
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/12/30 06:12:41
|
|
|
|
2016/12/30 07:42:47
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
|
|
Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
|
Gutter runners are great with their increased skill and movement.
If you use them well (strength 2), they are one of the best models in the game.
|
Former moderator 40kOnline
Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!
Illumini: "And thank you for not finishing your post with a "" I'm sorry, but after 7200 's that has to be the most annoying sign-off ever."
Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss |
|
|
|
2016/12/30 08:39:17
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
|
|
Longtime Dakkanaut
|
Was mistaken about missing cheerleaders and assistant coaches. They were removed in the dummed down rule book, but added in season book. It's not so difficult to read the rules if you already know them well, but for new players, it could be really confusing having misinformation like that in the rule book. It was even a little confusing for me until I actually read closely in the season book. So the rules are now partially in the rule book and partially in the season book. Also parts of the rule book is just wrong or incomplete. Well done? I'd rather just edit a few lines in the pdf.
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/12/30 08:39:48
|
|
|
|
2016/12/30 08:42:50
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
|
|
Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
|
Having part of the rules in the rule and season book follows a pattern.
Have a look at 40k and the codices and supplemental books.
|
Former moderator 40kOnline
Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!
Illumini: "And thank you for not finishing your post with a "" I'm sorry, but after 7200 's that has to be the most annoying sign-off ever."
Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss |
|
|
|
2016/12/30 12:45:12
Subject: Re:Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
|
|
Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
|
So basically it's just a rerelease then . Seriously most of the skills were never updated in reprints to address new skills from new teams. The example with strip ball for instance. Strip ball wasn't introduced in the old game until later so it didn't get updated in the core box. We have to have the mentality that GW has about the set. They are trying to get more mainstream and think of the board games as entrants into game/book stores. Only the core game would ever hit mass market if they make the jump, so referencing something that isn't in the core box might get people to go online and delve deeper, but would cause more people to question the game design if it looked like it was missing something. I haven't bought a set yet, so I cannot speak to weather it's better or worse, but if they did trim it down to just humans vs. orcs, then I can see why they trimmed down the rules as well.
Have they released a FAQ of changes between old and new? I don't really want to buy a set because I have enough of the old stuff and don't like the scale creep?
|
LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 |
|
|
|
2016/12/30 12:56:39
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
|
|
Longtime Dakkanaut
|
I tried to list all changes, dunno if I missed something.
So this new release is tailored for new players. Rules are added bit by bit for each book, and finally, it will be 95% similar to the rules old players already knew. But at the same time, it is just frustrating and confusing for old players.
The main goal as an old player to buy the new rules was to have official printed book to use. That is now drained down the toilet with incomplete and incosistent books.
If rule book is no longer rule book but an introduction to new players, why would any existing players use it instead of home printed rules which are consistent and complete?
|
|
|
|
2016/12/30 13:35:00
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
|
|
Longtime Dakkanaut
|
How long has it been since am official release? 20 years or so? I don't think it's massively unreasonable to aim this squarely at new players
|
|
|
|
2016/12/30 13:48:56
Subject: Blood Bowl - PRICE CONFIRMED PG 22
|
|
Major
London
|
Baxx wrote:I tried to list all changes, dunno if I missed something.
So this new release is tailored for new players. Rules are added bit by bit for each book, and finally, it will be 95% similar to the rules old players already knew. But at the same time, it is just frustrating and confusing for old players.
The main goal as an old player to buy the new rules was to have official printed book to use. That is now drained down the toilet with incomplete and incosistent books
What did you think GW were gonna do? It's GW!
|
|
|
|
|