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Where's Thor? Is he too mighty for this game?

Where are people getting the specifics on scale? What size bases are those?

 LunarSol wrote:
Where are people getting the specifics on scale? What size bases are those?

I was about to ask the same thing!

Hoping this is in that 28mm (Ha!) to 32mm (more or less) range that we seem to be living in these days...

I think (hope?) that folk are just speculating based on Imperial Assault to Legion

 Alpharius wrote:

 LunarSol wrote:
Where are people getting the specifics on scale? What size bases are those?

I was about to ask the same thing!

Hoping this is in that 28mm (Ha!) to 32mm (more or less) range that we seem to be living in these days...

Someone on a different forum is at Gencon and said developers confirmed it was 40mm, here is the quote -

In the Q & A portion of the In-flight Will, the presenter for Atomic Mass Games, was asked the scale and he said 40mm.

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 Geifer wrote:
Where's Thor? Is he too mighty for this game?

The initial core set will come with 10 figures, with Modok and the Hulk available in individual expansion packs. Future sets will include characters like Killmonger, the Winter Soldier, the Guardians of the Galaxy, and Asgardians like Thor and Loki. Additional terrain will also be added, bringing locales like Knowhere to the game.

Aeneades wrote:
Main issue with scale for me is that I already have a load of city terrain for Batman/DC and Walking Dead. I really don’t want to have to start again due to a 20% scale increase.

Does 40mm mesh with any model railroad scale I wonder?

Probably?

I'm hoping that "40MM Scale" here is 'close enough to the exaggerated 32mm/35mm scale that many games live in?

I hope...

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
I think (hope?) that folk are just speculating based on Imperial Assault to Legion

Those models really aren't that much bigger. Legion bases are just incredibly thick and make everything taller.

Aeneades wrote:

 Geifer wrote:
Where's Thor? Is he too mighty for this game?

The initial core set will come with 10 figures, with Modok and the Hulk available in individual expansion packs. Future sets will include characters like Killmonger, the Winter Soldier, the Guardians of the Galaxy, and Asgardians like Thor and Loki. Additional terrain will also be added, bringing locales like Knowhere to the game.

Thanks!

 Sabotage! wrote:


The only con I see so far is Doc Oc in the starter instead of one of the Goblins or Mysterio (I was a Spiderman kid growing up).

Ehh... I feel Doc Ock really is Spider-Man's main nemesis though. GG flamed out pretty quickly and was dead from the early 70's though the mid 2000's. Doc Ock has remained consistent, lead the Sinister Six and actually became Spider-Man for a while. Not bad for a dumpy dude in a bowl cut!

So long as we get the classic Goblin and not that Abomination-looking pud from Ultimates, I'll be happy!

Very excited for this I am also a KM Marvel Universe Miniatures Game refuge. I am disappointed in the scale if it is truly that much bigger at 40mm but as a huge Marvel and Miniatures fan I would have to pick this up.

Photos courtesy Jonathan Lucas via facebook:

Wow, they are big.

And there's Thor!

Also, I kinda get what they're trying to do here - terrain is (allegedly) a big part of the game, so maybe by 'forcing' us to a 'new scale' they'll 'force' us to buy a lot of terrain?

Always a balancing act between that and alienating a big part of your potential customer base and turning them off from the get go though...

I seem to remember KM's Marvel line had the figures slightly bigger too, maybe?

Either way, I think I'm going to be ridiculously all in here...

Was there a release date announced?

I was looking sideways at the Clone Wars Legion Starter, but now my head has decidedly been turned...

Just needs to be appealing enough for a few other locals to buy in, or cheap enough that I can get enough for two.

The only prices I can read from that is Thor and Valkyrie for $40. I think the Spider-Gwen and Miles Morales set is $40 - which sucks because I'd like Spider-Gwen, but not Miles Morales, and being forced to spend an extra $20 on a figure you don't want because of bundling is a big no.

Like why put Vision and Winter Soldier in a two pack? I admit that I haven't read the comics in a few years, but have they even met?

Edit: Gamora and Nebula is also $40. So, we're looking at $20 models without the ability to pick and choose exactly which ones you buy. I think I'll stick to GW, where it is cheaper...

Making terrain you have to buy for the game is a good way to design rules that make use of the terrain. That's easily one of the biggest challenges with the DC/Old Marvel game and could make for a game that really does supers right. I'm not happy about it, as I have plenty of stuff for Batman that works just fine for more generic terrain interaction rules, but the developers are good enough that I'm willing to give them the benefit of doubt until release.


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I am a little worried how the lack of restrictions on team building will play out practically. I mean, I get that villains switch sides all the time so drawing any lines is borderline impossible, but its going to be hard to keep things from homogenizing or worse yet, end up with the Cap/Red Skull supercombo being the competitive standard.

Core set releases this Fall.


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MSRP

- Core Set $99.95

Box Contents 10 character miniatures 10 bases 1 Daily Bugle stand 2 cars 2 dumpsters 2 traffic lights 2 lampposts 170
Tokens 20 team tactics cards 3 map cards * 2 affiliation cards 10 character stat cards 6 crisis cards 3 movement tools 4
range tools 1 learn to play 10 dice

- Dice Set (12x) $9.95

- Measurement Set (4x range, 3x movement) $19.95

- Hulk and MODOK are $34.95 each (come with three Team Tactics and one Crisis cards plus 15 tokens)

- Scenery Set $34.95

1 Daily Bugle Stand 1 Daily Grind Stand 2 Cars (with optional Taxi topper) 2 Dumpsters 2 Lampposts 2 Traffic Lights

 Manchu wrote:

- Dice Set (12x) $9.95

- Measurement Set (4x range, 3x movement) $19.95

Ugh... Specialty dice and movement devices? At least with Legion, if you bought a second core set, you'd end up with enough. But Crisis Protocol's core has unique characters, so you wouldn't want to get two. This means that playing on my kitchen table will require another $30 in proprietary dice and movement tools (FFG never packs in enough dice, maybe this one will be different).

 Bossk_Hogg wrote:

 Sabotage! wrote:


The only con I see so far is Doc Oc in the starter instead of one of the Goblins or Mysterio (I was a Spiderman kid growing up).

Ehh... I feel Doc Ock really is Spider-Man's main nemesis though. GG flamed out pretty quickly and was dead from the early 70's though the mid 2000's. Doc Ock has remained consistent, lead the Sinister Six and actually became Spider-Man for a while. Not bad for a dumpy dude in a bowl cut!

So long as we get the classic Goblin and not that Abomination-looking pud from Ultimates, I'll be happy!

This is true, I've just always felt that the Green Goblin and Hobgoblin were a lot more interesting than Dok Ock. For all the great villains in Spiderman, I just always thought he was a tad boring. I haven't looked at Ultimates, and by the sounds of it I should probably avoid it!


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 Manchu wrote:
Core set releases this Fall.


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MSRP

- Core Set $99.95

Box Contents 10 character miniatures 10 bases 1 Daily Bugle stand 2 cars 2 dumpsters 2 traffic lights 2 lampposts 170
Tokens 20 team tactics cards 3 map cards * 2 affiliation cards 10 character stat cards 6 crisis cards 3 movement tools 4
range tools 1 learn to play 10 dice

- Dice Set (12x) $9.95

- Measurement Set (4x range, 3x movement) $19.95

- Hulk and MODOK are $34.95 each (come with three Team Tactics and one Crisis cards plus 15 tokens)

- Scenery Set $34.95

1 Daily Bugle Stand 1 Daily Grind Stand 2 Cars (with optional Taxi topper) 2 Dumpsters 2 Lampposts 2 Traffic Lights

Core Set seems pretty reasonably priced, but $35 for a single character is pretty steep. I mean I know Marvel licensing is absurdly expensive......but still that's a bit shocking.

Also nice to the see the Guardians come out shortly, they are definitely some of the most fun Marvel characters I can think of.

All prices seem spot on to me. I am especially looking forward to the $35 terrain set.

The only problem I see with this product line is, there’s no reason to buy multiple boxes. This could make it tough to stay afloat over time.

That Hulk looks like the size of a Dreadnought or so. Prices are high to fairly in line with what you see for models like this at 30 mm, but for 40 mm they're better than expected (but still a fair amount of sticker shock). The terrain set looks like a fantastic deal though. Specialty dice and measurement gauges is only a problem if the core set doesn't come with enough of them.

Core Set comes with 10x dice and a full measurement set. Seems fine, but I would want a set of dice and tools for each player.

LoH, I would have pegged you for a Dragon.

 LunarSol wrote:
That Hulk looks like the size of a Dreadnought or so. Prices are high to fairly in line with what you see for models like this at 30 mm, but for 40 mm they're better than expected (but still a fair amount of sticker shock). The terrain set looks like a fantastic deal though. Specialty dice and measurement gauges is only a problem if the core set doesn't come with enough of them.

Holy Cow, I didn't realize he was that big. He's definitely a better deal then I initially thought if that is the case.

 Sabotage! wrote:

 LunarSol wrote:
That Hulk looks like the size of a Dreadnought or so. Prices are high to fairly in line with what you see for models like this at 30 mm, but for 40 mm they're better than expected (but still a fair amount of sticker shock). The terrain set looks like a fantastic deal though. Specialty dice and measurement gauges is only a problem if the core set doesn't come with enough of them.

Holy Cow, I didn't realize he was that big. He's definitely a better deal then I initially thought if that is the case.

I'm just going by that top picture compared to the guy's head behind it. He looks pretty sizeable.

Does anyone know who the two at the back of the case are? Corvus Glaive and Proxima Midnight?

Team Tactics are interesting. Hopefully they give some list building direction.

...and is that Hela in there too?!?

Yup, Loki and Hela 2 pack to go with Thor & Valkyrie.

Yikes!

Hela's Threat Level must be...whatever the maximum is?

Looking things over, I do have to say Doc Ock is out of place in the starter. He's fine as Spidey's counterpoint, but if Thor/Loki had taken their place it would be a lot more cohesively Avengers based.

Excited about a LOT of these characters though. Not fond of Gamora's armor at all but its going to be hard to ignore the Guardians. Need Drax though. Really excited for Gwen as well, but needs at least one more pack of villains to do the Spidey stuff justice.

Hulk looks great. Miles/Gwen 2pack is good for me. Rocket and Groot. Valkyrie? Certainly there will be a Thanos. I may be in trouble. I also may not have to buy the base game to get the models I like.