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Is the Advanced Quest edition (Not Advanced Heroquest) worth anything? I presume it was a more limited release? It used multiple boards for some quests - though I think it only came with one and you had to club together to play properly without lots of resets.
rosafari wrote: Is the Advanced Quest edition (Not Advanced Heroquest) worth anything? I presume it was a more limited release? It used multiple boards for some quests - though I think it only came with one and you had to club together to play properly without lots of resets.
It's the original HeroQuest with a "Master Adventure" and additonal rules and models for Landsknechte/mercenaries. The Master Adventure used 4 (6?) boards, you simply set up the new board after leaving one. No need for multiple copies. It's basically HeroQuest 1.5
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Surely that depends if you want to split the party? I definitely played it with more than one board at some point, but maybe that was just kids being impatient!
rosafari wrote: Is the Advanced Quest edition (Not Advanced Heroquest) worth anything? I presume it was a more limited release? It used multiple boards for some quests - though I think it only came with one and you had to club together to play properly without lots of resets.
I think for both of them, based on when I last looked, you could sell a complete/good condition version and have enough money for a PS5 or a very cheap car! That was when they were up for sale, think the same with Warhammer Quest (which goes for absolutely nuts amounts of money when you can actually find a copy for sale).
Not a direct reply, but for those interested in the IP history of the HQ trademark...
"Fast forward to 1989. Milton Bradley and Games Workshop jointly published HeroQuest, a boxed adventure board game with miniatures. The generic fantasy game had nothing to do with Glorantha or RuneQuest. I interviewed Greg about this a few years ago and he was surprised they had used the name, but there was nothing Chaosium could do about it. You can't copyright a totally unpublished manuscript. Copyright is not the same as trademark, and you can't easily trademark an unpublished game, especially one that kept getting delayed. Games Workshop applied for the Trademark in 1989, and it was granted in 1992. The boardgame went out of print by 1997 and the Trademark lapsed in 1999 when it was not renewed. When Greg found out the trademark had lapsed he applied for it in 2001, was granted it in 2002, and started using in in 2003. Moon Design Publications is the current holder of the HeroQuest Trademark, having purchased all of Greg's Glorantha/RuneQuest/HeroQuest IP a few years ago. Most Trademarks have a 10 year life span, although they can be renewed easily if the trademark is still in active use." (Post from 2019)
https://basicroleplaying.org/topic/9337-heroquest-ip-history/
A few commented that Haslab, as far as we know, will not make HQ available outside of the US. My random speculation is that the HeroQuest trademark (or the equivalent) is still owned by another party outside of the US (mebbe GameZone, who knows), and Hasbro doesn't see the legal costs and resources are worth it from their crowdfunding point of view. : "Trademark squatting is when one party intentionally files a trademark application for a second party's registered trademark in a country where the second party does not currently hold a trademark registration. They take advantage of the "first-to-file" trademark system (not to be confused with first-to-file patent systems) in that country. While the United States has a "use-based" trademark system where trademark rights are acquired by "priority of use," most other countries around the world have a first-to-file system, awarding trademark rights to the first applicant. When bad-faith filers obtain registrations in a particular country, they are treated as legal trademark owners in that country. A bad-faith filer's intent is usually to get the true trademark owner to purchase the trademark registration."
https://www.uspto.gov/learning-and-resources/newsletter/inventors-eye/dont-sit-and-wait-stopping-trademark-squatters
According to https://trademarks.ipo.gov.uk, Heroquest is still a registered trademark (UK00001355871) by Hasbro UK... hoping that it's not going to be US-only
Haslab is resolutely North America only, at least mostly because of Hasbro's internal structure more than anything else, and has shown no sign of changing even when that structure has really caused some problems recently.
I would safely assume that isn't going to change any time soon.
However, for Haslab's Unicron project they did eventually let some international retailers sell it and added their numbers to the total. But it was months later, and only after they had to extend the deadline as the project failed it's goal. For Jabba's sail barge they sold some additional units on ebay internationally after it was released, but that was it.
Hasbro are very, very bad at the international stuff. They make Games Workshop look like a super modern global operating company.
I guess the Fimir might be less generic and more under threat?
Yes, unless the license agreement for the original game was incredibly open-ended (which, given some of the stupid oversights around GW IP that came out during the Chapterhouse case, is certainly possible) Fimir are unlikely to exist in the new game, as unlike the Bloodthirster they actually are a GW/Citadel creation.
Do you honestly think Hasbro would give any money to GW in order to license a fimir? The figure whose background is founded primarily on literal rape?
That would be fiscally irresponsible to the shareholders of hasbro, as the offensiveness of that model is not even remotely acceptable on any sane level.
Yeah, they could change the background. But whats the point? Google "fimir" and youre immediately chauffeured to its regrettable background. It may as well be etched in stone.
There is not a chance in hell, out of all these rumours flying around, that fimir will reprise their appearance.
I guess we will find out in 10 minutes more if the reveal is thorough.
Hasbro Pulse has a Youtube event starting at noon, 8 minutes from now. On phone so I can't link, but it's easy to find if you Google website. Maybe the timer will lead us their for live announcement.
frankelee wrote: Hasbro Pulse has a Youtube event starting at noon, 8 minutes from now. On phone so I can't link, but it's easy to find if you Google website. Maybe the timer will lead us their for live announcement.
Female elf, less realistic art? Bardicbroadcasts was on the money there! Some nice touches with the models, especially the skeleton with the scythe. Very Pathfinder-y goblins, too.
Too bad about the NA and Canada only thing :(
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