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 lord_blackfang wrote:
So the BoC rumour is buried then, along the GSG vs BoC battlebox, right?

They said the very next BT was going to be Chaos. BoC maybe for next year. GSG vs BoC was not part of the original rumour iIrc.

the boc vs gsc never had anything really reliable info. Same rumour claimed one side in TS&GK box would be all new models...so either the guy puts up fake rumours along real rumours just for fun of it or he has no real info after all.

Wayland Games currently selling Dominion for £62.50 today as part of their Black Friday deals, 50% off.

https://www.waylandgames.co.uk/destruction-grand-alliance-faction-box/84486-warhammer-age-of-sigmar-dominion-english

And €99 in the EU from Kutami (ditto Octarius)

https://www.kutami.de/Kutami-Sonderangebote

Ac4155 wrote:Wayland Games currently selling Dominion for £62.50 today as part of their Black Friday deals, 50% off.

https://www.waylandgames.co.uk/destruction-grand-alliance-faction-box/84486-warhammer-age-of-sigmar-dominion-english

lord_blackfang wrote:And €99 in the EU from Kutami (ditto Octarius)

https://www.kutami.de/Kutami-Sonderangebote

Wayland ship DDP to the EU for a flat shipping rate of £4.92 even using PayPal’s exchange rate it works out at around €85.

I have one in my cart (need a 2nd Shaman and the Boltboyz the rest is effectively free at that price) but I’m waiting until preorders on Saturday if it’s gone by then, then I wasn’t meant to get another copy.

 DaveC wrote:

Wayland ship DDP to the EU for a flat shipping rate of £4.92 even using PayPal’s exchange rate it works out at around €85.

Maybe to you, £25 to me and with no guarantee the socopathic imbeciles at customs will even acknowledge the DDP.

I wonder is there any chance GW releases Combat patrol-like boxes for Age of Sigmar in 3.0. There was no announcement for Nurgle though, but I still hope they reveal it closer to Maggotkin release.
It's also disappointing they put no endless spells for Nurgle (and orks previously as well).

OokamiEq wrote:
I wonder is there any chance GW releases Combat patrol-like boxes for Age of Sigmar in 3.0.

Hopefully never. Start Collecting boxes (with bespoke designs, too) is where AoS beats 40K so hard it's not even funny

OokamiEq wrote:
I wonder is there any chance GW releases Combat patrol-like boxes for Age of Sigmar in 3.0.

NEVER SAY THAT AGAIN.

 Irbis wrote:

OokamiEq wrote:
I wonder is there any chance GW releases Combat patrol-like boxes for Age of Sigmar in 3.0.

Hopefully never. Start Collecting boxes (with bespoke designs, too) is where AoS beats 40K so hard it's not even funny

Why? Start collecting is smaller and provides lesser amount of points. With combat patrol or 2 you can already play normally.

looking at the Flesh Eater Start Collection box, 70€, makes you an entry list and 2 make you an army

the combat Patrol, you get more in 1 box, it costs more, but you still need 2 and 3 start collection boxes are cheaper than 2 combat patrol boxes

OokamiEq wrote:
Why? Start collecting is smaller and provides lesser amount of points. With combat patrol or 2 you can already play normally.

Did you even bother to look at them? Two SC cost the same as CP, give you more minis, and much bigger discount. Hell, look at Dark Angel combat patrol, it has less minis than most start collecting - if that is desirable future to you, I have no words

The chaos warriors SC is a thing of beauty, cheap, new, amazing sculpts, more minis than Black Templar "army" box and costs 1/4 of it...

 Irbis wrote:

OokamiEq wrote:
Why? Start collecting is smaller and provides lesser amount of points. With combat patrol or 2 you can already play normally.

The chaos warriors SC is a thing of beauty, cheap, new, amazing sculpts, more minis than Black Templar "army" box and costs 1/4 of it...

Don't forget it's actually all StD-specific minis

I wonder is there any chance GW releases Combat patrol-like boxes for Age of Sigmar in 3.0.

Yeah I really like the new CPs for 40k. Roughly the same discount as SC, but higher price (so more saving), plus different stuff, which is good because I've already bought all the SC 40k I'll ever need. I think there's still a couple of SC AoS I might buy though, so I'm not too fussed about the AoS line switching over to CP boxes (though I wouldn't mind too much).

 Irbis wrote:

OokamiEq wrote:
Why? Start collecting is smaller and provides lesser amount of points. With combat patrol or 2 you can already play normally.

Did you even bother to look at them? Two SC cost the same as CP, give you more minis, and much bigger discount. Hell, look at Dark Angel combat patrol, it has less minis than most start collecting - if that is desirable future to you, I have no words

The chaos warriors SC is a thing of beauty, cheap, new, amazing sculpts, more minis than Black Templar "army" box and costs 1/4 of it...

Where are you buying start collecting sets for ~£37? at full price? Likewise that's a lot of misinformation, combat patrol boxes have a fixed price point of £85, start collecting vary in price but are £55-£60 on average, which isn't half the cost last time I checked. Also if the fewer models cost more individually and are more points, that's still better?

 Irbis wrote:

OokamiEq wrote:
Why? Start collecting is smaller and provides lesser amount of points. With combat patrol or 2 you can already play normally.

Did you even bother to look at them? Two SC cost the same as CP, give you more minis, and much bigger discount. Hell, look at Dark Angel combat patrol, it has less minis than most start collecting - if that is desirable future to you, I have no words

The chaos warriors SC is a thing of beauty, cheap, new, amazing sculpts, more minis than Black Templar "army" box and costs 1/4 of it...

110e vs 70-80e so 2 for 1 is not that accurate.

And in future cp or sc either way price will go up as box prices go up. That or new sc model count goes down,

Only way sc prlce won't go up is if gw never ever never releases new sc and withat means no new unit whatsoever finds itself in sc either. And no kit in sc would ever get updated in future

AoS warscrolls for

Tarantulos Brood

Darkoath Savagers

Darkoath lack the cultist keyword that might be an oversight

Am I overthinking the warscroll, or are the Darkoath pretty damn nice (ruleswise)?

Or they could keep the SC price down to be an attractive entry point for new players, instead of rising the entry point price.

But I hope they go with Combat Patrols.

 nels1031 wrote:
Am I overthinking the warscroll, or are the Darkoath pretty damn nice (ruleswise)?

Extremely. And GW thinking they are worth less points than the spider furries is hilarious.


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Cronch wrote:
Or they could keep the SC price down to be an attractive entry point for new players, instead of rising the entry point price.

But I hope they go with Combat Patrols.

Please no, in USD the start collecting boxes are still two-digit prices whereas combat patrols are solidly into three. That sticker shock factor makes a stupidly huge difference when trying to recruit people.

Bottle confirmed the lack of Cultist is intentional on Conan and friends.

 Eldarain wrote:
Bottle confirmed the lack of Cultist is intentional on Conan and friends.

What does the cultist keyword do?

 Crimson wrote:

 Eldarain wrote:
Bottle confirmed the lack of Cultist is intentional on Conan and friends.

What does the cultist keyword do?

Units with the Cultist keyword can take a Mark of Chaos. They are also battleline if they have the same Mark as the general. In the Ravagers sub faction the general can summon a unit of 10 Cultists. A Darkoath Chieftain or Warqueen can take a Mark as Cultists of the Dark Gods applies to them but the Savagers can't. The Chieftain and Warqueen also have command ability rules that affect Marauders or Cultists but Savagers don't have these keywords.


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Servants of the Plague god bundle added to the Warhmmer day deals. £94.50 vs £135 normally.

1x Lord of Blights
5x Putrid Blightkings
2x Pusgoyle Blightlords
1x Poxbringer, Herald of Nurgle
10x Plaguebearers
3x Plague Drones
6x Nurglings

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

Cronch wrote:
Or they could keep the SC price down to be an attractive entry point for new players, instead of rising the entry point price.

But I hope they go with Combat Patrols.

Please no, in USD the start collecting boxes are still two-digit prices whereas combat patrols are solidly into three. That sticker shock factor makes a stupidly huge difference when trying to recruit people.

While I agree with your sentiment it's the way it's bound to go. GW has tried only to keep pound price two digit for a long time, other countries be damned. But they seem to be moving away even from this lately.

tneva82 wrote:
And in future cp or sc either way price will go up as box prices go up. That or new sc model count goes down,

Only way sc prlce won't go up is if gw never ever never releases new sc and withat means no new unit whatsoever finds itself in sc either. And no kit in sc would ever get updated in future

In case you didn't notice, GW already yanked price of SC up quite recently. They could - I don't know, here comes a quite revolutionary concept - keep it steady for a few more years? Like they did in six years before said price change? But I guess it's somehow asking too much?

JWBS wrote:
Yeah I really like the new CPs for 40k. Roughly the same discount as SC, but higher price (so more saving), plus different stuff, which is good because I've already bought all the SC 40k I'll ever need. I think there's still a couple of SC AoS I might buy though, so I'm not too fussed about the AoS line switching over to CP boxes (though I wouldn't mind too much).

If you think saving 30$ from 80$ is the same as from 140$ methinks you should work on your math skills a bit

And what I nice argument. "I got mine, frak new players who might get into the hobby if they had a low entry point". Did you think this through at all? Because that's kinda a big shoot in the foot there, not supporting your position...

 DaveC wrote:
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Servants of the Plague god bundle added to the Warhmmer day deals. £94.50 vs £135 normally.

1x Lord of Blights
5x Putrid Blightkings
2x Pusgoyle Blightlords
1x Poxbringer, Herald of Nurgle
10x Plaguebearers
3x Plague Drones
6x Nurglings

So, let's see - GW combined two SC and extra troop box, making a bundle that dunks on ANY TWO COMBAT PATROLS COMBINED (sorry for being loud, this message just needs to get to some people) when it comes in amount of plastic/minis, and the best part is, it costs about same as a SINGLE combat patrol. I'll repeat, a single one.

It's really sad to see GW started to brainwash people so hard with constant hikes even their greedy pricing is already well below what said people started excusing and asking "ram me harder". It really starts to feel like an Apple cult when people get angry at others at mere suggestion of 'how about a big corporation stops constantly raising prices needlessly for a bit' which is apparently outlandish thing to say now

 Irbis wrote:

JWBS wrote:
Yeah I really like the new CPs for 40k. Roughly the same discount as SC, but higher price (so more saving), plus different stuff, which is good because I've already bought all the SC 40k I'll ever need. I think there's still a couple of SC AoS I might buy though, so I'm not too fussed about the AoS line switching over to CP boxes (though I wouldn't mind too much).

If you think saving 30$ from 80$ is the same as from 140$ methinks you should work on your math skills a bit

I'm gonna assume that's the absolute best case scenario for your argument and puts my point in the worst light possible bcos that seems to be your way. Pretty easy to replicate in reverse though, for anyone that's interested in that type of thig. Can even do it visually for extra impact, but whatever man.

I don’t think the value isn’t there in the Combat Patrols, but I do think the sticker shock might be an issue for new players compared to Start Collectings. What could be good is maybe do both, and have them complimentary to each other if you get both, but I guess that’s a lot of SKUs and stuff.

 Irbis wrote:


And what I nice argument. "I got mine, frak new players who might get into the hobby if they had a low entry point". Did you think this through at all? Because that's kinda a big shoot in the foot there, not supporting your position...

Sorry I just noticed this bit of righteous sanctimony, otherwise I would have responded to this in my previous reply. I suppose all I can do is apologise for making an argument from my own personal perspective, and clearly stating it as my own personal perspective, whilst also acknowledging that all of your arguments for whatever the f you're arguing for are invariably, nay exclusively, for the benefit of marginalised communities and underprivileged persons. And I thank you for that, I really do.


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 ImAGeek wrote:
I don’t think the value isn’t there in the Combat Patrols, but I do think the sticker shock might be an issue for new players compared to Start Collectings. What could be good is maybe do both, and have them complimentary to each other if you get both, but I guess that’s a lot of SKUs and stuff.

Yeah I think the benefits outweigh to drawbacks though, most people have had ample opportunity by now to get what they need from SC, I think the fresh wave of product not only benefits veterans, but also newcomers (which is not entirely true of the SC line in the case of veterans)

 Irbis wrote:

 DaveC wrote:
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Servants of the Plague god bundle added to the Warhmmer day deals. £94.50 vs £135 normally.

1x Lord of Blights
5x Putrid Blightkings
2x Pusgoyle Blightlords
1x Poxbringer, Herald of Nurgle
10x Plaguebearers
3x Plague Drones
6x Nurglings

So, let's see - GW combined two SC and extra troop box, making a bundle that dunks on ANY TWO COMBAT PATROLS COMBINED (sorry for being loud, this message just needs to get to some people) when it comes in amount of plastic/minis, and the best part is, it costs about same as a SINGLE combat patrol. I'll repeat, a single one.

It's really sad to see GW started to brainwash people so hard with constant hikes even their greedy pricing is already well below what said people started excusing and asking "ram me harder". It really starts to feel like an Apple cult when people get angry at others at mere suggestion of 'how about a big corporation stops constantly raising prices needlessly for a bit' which is apparently outlandish thing to say now

It's a time limited discount to shift stock/drum up hype. It's like me bragging my ebay auction win is so much better value, than a full rrp product.

I'd wager if those amazing value nurgle boxes sold better they wouldn't be in a time limited extra discount to box.

Dudeface wrote:

 Irbis wrote:

 DaveC wrote:
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Servants of the Plague god bundle added to the Warhmmer day deals. £94.50 vs £135 normally.

1x Lord of Blights
5x Putrid Blightkings
2x Pusgoyle Blightlords
1x Poxbringer, Herald of Nurgle
10x Plaguebearers
3x Plague Drones
6x Nurglings

So, let's see - GW combined two SC and extra troop box, making a bundle that dunks on ANY TWO COMBAT PATROLS COMBINED (sorry for being loud, this message just needs to get to some people) when it comes in amount of plastic/minis, and the best part is, it costs about same as a SINGLE combat patrol. I'll repeat, a single one.

It's really sad to see GW started to brainwash people so hard with constant hikes even their greedy pricing is already well below what said people started excusing and asking "ram me harder". It really starts to feel like an Apple cult when people get angry at others at mere suggestion of 'how about a big corporation stops constantly raising prices needlessly for a bit' which is apparently outlandish thing to say now

It's a time limited discount to shift stock/drum up hype. It's like me bragging my ebay auction win is so much better value, than a full rrp product.

I'd wager if those amazing value nurgle boxes sold better they wouldn't be in a time limited extra discount to box.

It's almost like, by comparing an everyday line product to this ultra-limited, once in a 20 year deal that can't be sourced from third party discounters and is clearly a stock clearing measure that just so happens to be a combination of two products who's value he's lauding ...he's being deliberately disingenuous? No, that can't be it