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New nighthaunt model is a nice sculpt in general, but not really fitiing the aesthetic of the army as a whole. Its better than the ferryman endless spell, but id prxy it for the spell, and not as a nighthaunt unit. Sorry fans, but i just dont see it fitting the rest of the boo bois.

The new terrain is nice. Mixing it with old terrain... dumb. I want the new terrain for warcry. The old terrain doesnt fit warcry, because nobody is rebuilding azyrite buildings in the bloodwind spoil, they are infact, defacing them.

 Wiz Warrior wrote:
New nighthaunt model is a nice sculpt in general, but not really fitiing the aesthetic of the army as a whole. Its better than the ferryman endless spell, but id prxy it for the spell, and not as a nighthaunt unit. Sorry fans, but i just dont see it fitting the rest of the boo bois.

The model ties into the aesthetic of the Nighthaunt just fine...

The new model is cool, but I feel like the last thing Nighthaunts needed was another hero. I would have preferred either a piece of faction terrain or a monster. I imagine that they added this guy so each subfaction has a named character focused around it.

I also really like the new incarnate and am happy to see GW revisit the idea. Once they release it separate from a boxset, I will likely pick one up. Eager to see its warscroll and how the bonding rule actually works.

I am bit undivided about the boat ghost. It feels like it would be easier to build an army around the new model than to add the new model to an existing army themewise.

Removed - rule #1 please

Rather than going off on one, care to expand on why you think the Ferryman doesn't fit the range?

 Dysartes wrote:
Rather than going off on one, care to expand on why you think the Ferryman doesn't fit the range?

The nautical theme of the new model does feel a little off when compared to the general, and generic, graveyard theme of the army. They did add a tombstone to the new model's base, but it feels odd. The spirits being drawn to the model are also visually different from the spirit hosts and other models (OBR) that share the same look.

Things it does right for nighthaunt:
Its another nighthaunt model.
It has roses and thorn vines.
It is well sculpted.

Despite that, it misses the mark because:
Nighthaunt are spectral and sculpted as spectral units, this one doewnt really match that aesthetic. If anything, its spectral units clamoring for it.
Why the cage on the ferryman? This is under the auspices of the torturers and jailors in the nighthaunt. Its not easily apparent, to even tbose who deeply know the lore, why this aesthetic chouce was made.
There is already a ferryman model for death. Granted, its an endless spell, but as i already noted, this makes a better replacement for that endless spell than it does as a unit.

I dont dislike the model. Again, its a great sculpt. Its just not a nighhaunt model. The sciptor mortis us a great fit. This one is a miss. Im glad so many people like it since it is sure to sell and thus make gw notice nighthaunt even more for future support. But i feel its a miss.

I eagerly await more feedback about how wrong i am and how i am clearly too stupid to understand how this is the best nighthaunt model, by simply lunkung to an image as if thats all the evidence that is needed. So ill just say it right now: im so wrong and youre so right.

Well, that's another one on ignore for not understanding how a discussion forum works.

 Equinox wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:
Rather than going off on one, care to expand on why you think the Ferryman doesn't fit the range?

The nautical theme of the new model does feel a little off when compared to the general, and generic, graveyard theme of the army. They did add a tombstone to the new model's base, but it feels odd. The spirits being drawn to the model are also visually different from the spirit hosts and other models (OBR) that share the same look.

The dead come from all walks of life, from kings and queens (Kurdoss Valentian and Lady Olynder) to criminals (Chainrasps) and everything in between. A ferryman that drowns his passengers fits in thematically with executioners who knowingly execute the innocent, etc.

 Ghaz wrote:

The dead come from all walks of life, from kings and queens (Kurdoss Valentian and Lady Olynder) to criminals (Chainrasps) and everything in between. A ferryman that drowns his passengers fits in thematically with executioners who knowingly execute the innocent, etc.

I would contend that just because something shares a theme doesn't mean it shares the same aesthetic. In this case, the components of the new model that are shared across the range come off as out of place given he is a ferryman (briar roses and vines or a single tombstone) or are markedly different from existing examples (spirits). Ultimately this all comes down to individual tastes. Personally, I find the model on its own to be interesting and very cool. That said, I don't care for it against the backdrop of the full range.


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 Wiz Warrior wrote:

I dont dislike the model. Again, its a great sculpt. Its just not a nighhaunt model. The sciptor mortis us a great fit. This one is a miss. Im glad so many people like it since it is sure to sell and thus make gw notice nighthaunt even more for future support. But i feel its a miss.

With regards to Mr. Deathnote (Scriptor Mortis), I do feel he fits in with the overall aesthetic of the army, but I hate the look of him. I had the same reaction to him that I did when I saw the harridan models. Cool concept, but not executed to my taste. I get that they are ghosts, but I find the extra limbs unappealing visually.

The aesthetic refers to the look. Aesthetically, most of the Nighthaunt (including Awlrach) are very similar as noted above.

The theme refers to the background. Thematically, the background of a large majority of the Nighthaunts is that they were killers in their mortal lives (as Awlrach was by drowning his passengers).

As I see it, Awlrach fits the Nighthaunt both aesthetically and thematically.

 Ghaz wrote:
The aesthetic refers to the look. Aesthetically, most of the Nighthaunt (including Awlrach) are very similar as noted above.

The theme refers to the background. Thematically, the background of a large majority of the Nighthaunts is that they were killers in their mortal lives (as Awlrach was by drowning his passengers).

As I see it, Awlrach fits the Nighthaunt both aesthetically and thematically.

That is the beauty of the hobby. We can purchase, build and play to fit our personal views. Whether or not we share those same views doesn't matter in the end.

Danny76 wrote:
Is this Season of War book the first one for AoS?
(They are already doing something similar for 40k, or is it here it’s already started?)

Keeping up is hard with all these books and campaign story things.. A concise list somewhere for both systems would be great really, like a books release order list etc.

It's cool because the AoS campaign books are like the 40k ones but good.

Love everything that was announced. Super excited to pick up the terrain box, the new book (if nothing else) will be a great narrative read, and the new NH character (as a NH player), is right up my alley. I'm now frantically figuring out what I can flog in time to get everything.

I agree mostly now. The Incarnate has grown on me a lot now that i've had a chance to look at him properly. Still not a 100% on the terrain box due to the repeat walls and statue. (Picked up two of those splash release scenery boxes when they first came out, but i'll probably get it). The books are always great so yeah, that's a must.

But this still feels very light release wise for a quarter of the year already. Hopefully it will pick up around summer.


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Neat. Hopefully this means we may end up with an Incarnate per realm:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/03/25/the-krondspine-incarnate-is-making-ghur-even-more-savage-but-what-is-it/

Seeing by the sound of it ghb22 is more ghur other realms are faaaar away.

I think the Season of War: Thondia and the Thondian Strongpoint are closer to release than we think. AoS Coach mentioned on his reaction stream that he couldn’t talk about it as he already has it. Tom on Warhammer Weekly mentioned that they said in the presentation that the incarnate will get a separate release later hopefully that applies to the Megadroth Remains and Cleansing Aqualith as well

Likely yes. Normal gw pattern. Big discount box first, separate non-discount later.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

Neat. Hopefully this means we may end up with an Incarnate per realm:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/03/25/the-krondspine-incarnate-is-making-ghur-even-more-savage-but-what-is-it/

A full set of Incarnates would be fun to collect and shouldn't require unreasonable amounts of resources to produce but GW's track record of releasing a complete set of anything isn't very convincing. I expect we see another Incarnates in the future but annoyingly at least D3 Realms will be left without a model.

I am slowly warning up to Beast Incarnate but I can't figure out what the yellow gun inside it is supposed to represent. I think I will glue some fine sand on it instead.

jullevi wrote:

I am slowly warning up to Beast Incarnate but I can't figure out what the yellow gun inside it is supposed to represent. I think I will glue some fine sand on it instead.

I assume it's amber magic as that's the magic associated with the Realm of Ghur

Amberstone is the name of the realmstone of Ghur, I believe. Color fits, at least.

I was looking at it today thinking it would look better possibly with a more contrasting color.

 DaveC wrote:
I think the Season of War: Thondia and the Thondian Strongpoint are closer to release than we think. AoS Coach mentioned on his reaction stream that he couldn’t talk about it as he already has it. Tom on Warhammer Weekly mentioned that they said in the presentation that the incarnate will get a separate release later hopefully that applies to the Megadroth Remains and Cleansing Aqualith as well

Oh i hope so. This entire first quarter of the year has been very sparse (personally speaking) concerning releases. I could do with something to drop a little cash on.

 nels1031 wrote:
Amberstone is the name of the realmstone of Ghur, I believe. Color fits, at least.

I was looking at it today thinking it would look better possibly with a more contrasting color.

I'll see about converting mine so the amberbone chunk is placed as if it's the incarnate's heart, rather than floating in the middle. Failing that I'll just cut it out entirely. It's a cool piece, it just doesn't look good right there.

It looks like the dracolisk has a fanny pack tied to one of his rib bones (leg bone?).


https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/03/25/the-krondspine-incarnate-is-making-ghur-even-more-savage-but-what-is-it/
I kind of wish they hadn't done the art piece. That looks terrifying. The model looks even more silly in comparison.

Yeah, the model looks a bit awkward/uninspired compared to the artwork. Main issues IMO are the vertebrae look more like rocks than segments of a critters spine, and the "magic" looks more like a long flowing hair or flesh or something than it does proper magical energy. I know magical energy can be a bit tricky to sculpt but come on thats just weak - especially when the artwork depicts it more as an amber colored lightning.

In shocking news, Arena of Shades goes on pre-order next weekend.

Now the lovely process of hunting down the gladiatrix seperately. Joy..

Probably be on ebay for $30-50, or you can wait a month or two for the separate $33 release...

The new box sucks for people who want to fill out their DoK ranks. The Witch Aelves and Gladiatrix is the only thing that entices me and the rest is just extra crap on the gray pile.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Probably be on ebay for $30-50, or you can wait a month or two for the separate $33 release...

A month or two?
The mounted Wight King still isn't avalible separately, and it's been nearly a year!