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The wight king is part of a start collecting. That's not getting a seperate release until that box changes.

 Eldarsif wrote:
The new box sucks for people who want to fill out their DoK ranks. The Witch Aelves and Gladiatrix is the only thing that entices me and the rest is just extra crap on the gray pile.

Actually with 3.0 rules focusing more on minimum units its actually not bad. For anyone wanting to round out their army with infantry its a very solid boxed set. It's not worth it for those of us further along who might only need one of the troop types or only the new hero. But for anyone new or newish to the army its a very good deal with pretty much no bad choices in there. Remembering that the khinerai and witches set are duel sets so you've got both kinds of khinerai and either sisters of slaughter or witch aevles.

 Overread wrote:

 Eldarsif wrote:
The new box sucks for people who want to fill out their DoK ranks. The Witch Aelves and Gladiatrix is the only thing that entices me and the rest is just extra crap on the gray pile.

Actually with 3.0 rules focusing more on minimum units its actually not bad. For anyone wanting to round out their army with infantry its a very solid boxed set. It's not worth it for those of us further along who might only need one of the troop types or only the new hero. But for anyone new or newish to the army its a very good deal with pretty much no bad choices in there. Remembering that the khinerai and witches set are duel sets so you've got both kinds of khinerai and either sisters of slaughter or witch aevles.

I agree that it is good for starting players. I, however, have little need to get my Warlocks to a cool 20 or more Khinerai.

So for my selfish reason I am not a fan of the box.

I'm the same - so hounding ebay it is. Though honestly right now I'm more likely to snap up eldar from their recent box as that was 100% all new stuff.

Not sure on that model. I kind of like it, but hate the giant rock, and the absurdly long whip.

Its very odd that its so static, when pretty much every other witch elf/mask elf is posed like a rabid ballet dancer in mid jump or run.

I see it as imposing/challenging the enemy. Everyone else is leaping into combat, she's holding back with the whip swirling around her in a menacing pose ready to leap into action, but daring the opponent to try making the first move. Only to get tangled, snarled and cut up by her whip.


I think it also helps her really stand out from the others as a model on the tabletop.

I think it suffers a bit like the stonemage, where GW wanted to show off the designs they could do but didn't put enough consideration into if they should. A smaller whip making room for a less rigid pose would have looked a lot better to me.

It is interesting how it compares to the Scriptor, where the bling and exaggeration really adds to the model and pushes it up in quality. Probably because they didn't do it by making his quill a spear sized polearm.

I kinda think it was intended to be a Daughters of Khaine-esque Beastmistress.

They even kinda reused the pose from the female handler on the War Hydra/Kharibdyss.

Arena of Shades is £115, €150, $195

That's a remarkably good deal considering the contents.

So that's going to be about £90.00 after discounters. Damnit, now i'm tempted even though i only want one model from the box.

About 180€ of stuff not counting the new heroes and Nighthaunt unit? Not bad, and I don't have any of the Nighthaunt yet except the ETB Nashees. Hopefully someone wants the DoK half.

Sprue breakdown of the new units:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/03/28/unboxing-arena-of-shades-morathis-champions-battle-ghostly-agents-of-the-craventhrone/

I'm 50/50 as to whether that whip is going to be a pig or go together easily.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Sprue breakdown of the new units:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/03/28/unboxing-arena-of-shades-morathis-champions-battle-ghostly-agents-of-the-craventhrone/

I'm 50/50 as to whether that whip is going to be a pig or go together easily.

On the plus side no Nighthaunt player is under any illusions their kits will be anything other than a pig to build

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Probably be on ebay for $30-50, or you can wait a month or two for the separate $33 release...

A month or two?
The mounted Wight King still isn't avalible separately, and it's been nearly a year!

Im still waiting for the characters from soul wars to be released, and that was the aos v2 starter box.

Craventhrone guard get some options in the kit - 14 heads and 7 torso fronts with a universal neck joint, 7 crossbows.

 DaveC wrote:
Craventhrone guard get some options in the kit - 14 heads and 7 torso fronts with a universal neck joint, 7 crossbows.

Nifty!

 DaveC wrote:
Craventhrone guard get some options in the kit - 14 heads and 7 torso fronts with a universal neck joint, 7 crossbows.

Yep! I'd like a second unit, actually... but locally 3 of us want the Nighthaunt half and nobody wants the DoK half.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Sprue breakdown of the new units:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/03/28/unboxing-arena-of-shades-morathis-champions-battle-ghostly-agents-of-the-craventhrone/

I'm 50/50 as to whether that whip is going to be a pig or go together easily.

I spy 7 different crossbows and 14 heads on the sprue of 5 dudes, seems like there's gonne be at least some semblence of options.

Edit: Damn someone spotted that before me.

Nifty 'finish him!' ability on the Gladiatrix, I like it. Also art of what I wish the miniature looked like.

I like it. It seems very late game and situational, but it's one of those when you pull it off moves, it's going to feel good.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
The wight king is part of a start collecting. That's not getting a seperate release until that box changes.

It is very unfortunate that Grave Guard and Black Knights didn't get updated kits, they just do not look right to me when I put them next to my new snazzy Deathrattle. The issue with both Wight Kings is also sad, the old one on foot is still locked into one of those crummy square bases, and the one on his Horsey is locked into a box with stuff I have and do not need.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
I like it. It seems very late game and situational, but it's one of those when you pull it off moves, it's going to feel good.

Also buff to non-snake ladies that i like. Especially as i want to use those anyway. No morathi plus snake spam for me.

And here I am, wanting to be excited for rules for the models, but dont play AOS, so I am being as patient as possible waiting for the Warcry rule counterparts to be released...

That's just an exceptionally convoluted way to say "target loses D3 wounds, but only if this is enough to slay it" right?

Basically yes.

There might be a subtly or two in the way its worded, but that's the upshot.

It's an interesting finisher move clearly aimed at those moments where you almost but not quite kill something.

Yeah, though as it isn't applying wounds it bypasses wards as well as various allocation abilities. Can't bounce it off to a bodyguard, for example. Which is what makes it cool.


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 Wiz Warrior wrote:
And here I am, wanting to be excited for rules for the models, but dont play AOS, so I am being as patient as possible waiting for the Warcry rule counterparts to be released...

Good news is Sam Pearson has historically been super awesome about getting those worked out an published via WarCom/White Dwarf relatively quickly.

BoLS have an article on Krondspine (not sure of their source but review copies are out there - EDIT it’s from a vlog post that got posted early by mistake)

400 points, has States rather than wounds (similar to behemoths damage table) starts at State 2 can go up or down (0 = destroyed). Has to be bound to a hero - goes wild if hero killed - danger to both sides. At max State Krondspine can do up to 34 wounds. Bonded wizard gets +1 to magic rolls, -1 penalty to enemy wizards. Devour endless spells to up levels. Takes up your ally allotment regardless of points played - no other allies allowed. Takes a Battleshock test on 3D6 rather than wounds lose a State level if failed.

Also next tome celestial is Hedonites of Slaanesh.

no take aim pose for the ghost crossbowmen, that's like...the essential pose for unit with these type of weapons. For a 55-60 burger dollar unit they could've use a bigger sprue for that.

Not sure if its newsworthy, but I'm seeing on Facebook that the latest AoS app update is now locking 3.0 battletomes behind the "paywall" of needing the code to unlock them.

I honestly thought that was the case from the get go with 3.0, so like I mentioned not sure if its newsworthy. I think the 40K app is exactly like that so the writing was on the wall, I suppose.