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Correct. That is why I phrased my statement the way I did.

There was a bit of confusion it seemed because Adam read a question from the chat that dealt with someone asking "will there be other races" or something to that extent.

I don't have much hope for Cities of Sigmar as a concept. It was a cool thing initially but it became abundantly clear that it was just a temporary thing early on. It wasn't until Broken Realms: Morathi and Teclis with their unique cities that I feel we really got something matching the concepts by locking out certain things and letting you bring in a tertiary faction.

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
Given the appearance on the distant horizon of The Old World, I would expect there is a move to distance AoS from the old warhammer factions that did not entirely port over, such as Empire, to avoid too much blurring of these slowly distancing IPs' aesthetics.

Except the concept sketches of the bits and bobs looked 100% Empire. At least to me, and a couple other people have said the same.
So if this is their attempt at distancing, they're doing it wrong.

Voss wrote:

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
Given the appearance on the distant horizon of The Old World, I would expect there is a move to distance AoS from the old warhammer factions that did not entirely port over, such as Empire, to avoid too much blurring of these slowly distancing IPs' aesthetics.

Except the concept sketches of the bits and bobs looked 100% Empire. At least to me, and a couple other people have said the same.
So if this is their attempt at distancing, they're doing it wrong.

Yeah, the little scene with Snikch was also distinctly old world in style. If there is any intent of altering the relation between the two IPs, it does look more like a merger at this point.

The Cantauron Marshall (or however its spelled) was previewed today - Glorious.

Horns of Hashut not Chaos Dwarves (at all, not even one), but evidently are associated with them, more hints that they are coming soon.

Image of the pitched battle points for the Sylvaneth vs Skaven box doing the rounds.

Echoes of Doom seems to be the box sets name.

Sylvaneth get
Lady of the Vines
Spirit of Durthu
3 Kurnoth Hunters
5 Gossamid Archers

Skaven get
Deathmaster
20 Clan rats
10 Stormvermin
Grey Seer on Screaming Bell

Skaven are at a near 500 point disadvantage!

 DaveC wrote:
Image of the pitched battle points for the Sylvaneth vs Skaven box doing the rounds

Sylvaneth get
Lady of the Vines
Spirit of Durthu
3 Kurnoth Hunters
5 Gossamid Archers

Skaven get
Death master
20 Clan rats
10 Stormvermin
Grey Seer on Screaming Bell

Ooooh yes please! Nice find. Shame about the clan rats but it wouldn't GW if there wasn't a dud kit in there somewhere...

 DaveC wrote:
Image of the pitched battle points for the Sylvaneth vs Skaven box doing the rounds

Sylvaneth get
Lady of the Vines
Spirit of Durthu
3 Kurnoth Hunters
5 Gossamid Archers

Skaven get
Deathmaster
20 Clan rats
10 Stormvermin
Grey Seer on Screaming Bell

Skaven are at a near 500 point disadvantage!

Such a solid box for Sylvaneth. Only one new sculpt for skaven will hurt a lot of fans

A solid few days of reviews, imo

As someone who loves Chaos, the 40K cultists, mutants and big mutant spawn cultists will find a place in my armies. Only a few have excess 40K paraphernalia to remove or just sell off if its too much.

Great to see Sylvaneth get some love. Never had an interest in them before, but their new stuff is pretty wild. Cool to see Lady of Vines back in action. A pivotal character in the Realmgate Wars. Gotta admit to being jealous though, I wish FS and IDK got that level of love for their new book release. But thats the way the cookie crumbles.

The Black Library characters are both pretty cool. I think the Vampire is going to get a lot of love from painters.

New Hashut warband looks neat, but thematically seems to butt heads with 2 previous warbands. The Iron Golems + Scions of the Flame. A new season/edition of Warcry in a forested area might bring some wild possibilities for terrain.

Surprised more Chaos stuff wasn’t shown, weird to just reveal the Ogroids but not the rest of the leaked stuff. Daemon Prince will be an auto purchase for me, probably more then 1. Looks like a wild kit.

The possibility of new human mini’s for Order is intriguing, but won’t excite me until I see finished product.

I don’t know why they didn’t just show the box in the reveal.

Are there more leaks about CSM? Maybe about the bikers? I'm starting to think first wave will come next week (I'm no leaker, it just makes sense if HH starts on july)

 ImAGeek wrote:
I don’t know why they didn’t just show the box in the reveal.

Because GW previews are regular previews in slow motion.

How many times must I say this?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
I don’t know why they didn’t just show the box in the reveal.

Because GW previews are regular previews in slow motion.

How many times must I say this?

Okay let me rephrase. I know why they didn’t just show the box in the preview, and it’s incredibly irritating.

Ugh the flying sylvaneth unit another "better have shooty unit or you won't easily deal with these" ala foxes. Not quite as bad as foxes as cost cp to move to safety and can fail on 1 but not fan of units so impervious to melee units.

Well at least spamming them isn't as irritating as foxes due to 1 ca/phase rule

Garrac wrote:
Are there more leaks about CSM? Maybe about the bikers? I'm starting to think first wave will come next week (I'm no leaker, it just makes sense if HH starts on july)

Methinks you're in the wrong thread, chief.

Yep. Sorry, Im writing from a mobile and I literally couldn't see the title

BTW, as a skaven player, Im deeeeeeply disapointed at GW. This is dirty

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/05/08/sunday-preview-witch-aelves-spectral-hordes-and-the-defence-of-the-north/

Daughters of Khaine and Nighthaunts up for preorder on saturday.

Noice. New vanguards too, are they exactly the same as the fury of the deep box?

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Noice. New vanguards too, are they exactly the same as the fury of the deep box?

Nope. They don't have the two new characters.

Frankly, the Idoneth Vanguard is trash.

I don’t like Fyreslayers anyway, but god their vanguard just looks so boring.

Both don't seem great since the Idoneth one only added an Allopex and changed the hero which doesn't seem worth the price increase and the Fyreslayers one lost the Magmadroth which won't be cheap by itself. At least there is a non-Magmadroth character inside now since none of their heroes was available from FLGs



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 Kanluwen wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Noice. New vanguards too, are they exactly the same as the fury of the deep box?

Nope. They don't have the two new characters.

Frankly, the Idoneth Vanguard is trash.

Also Eels instead of the Namarti Reavers for Idoneth and switched 5 Hearthguard for another 10 Vulkites so basically completely different

 ImAGeek wrote:
I don’t like Fyreslayers anyway, but god their vanguard just looks so boring.

It's a problem with their army in general. They need a big wave of new models. Sadly its the case that many armies in AoS need this same update; either to add variety and/or to replace older sculpts that no longer stand up to the modern quality GW can achieve (or are still in metal/finecast)

Heard rumour that morathi ca is still in book. If true that's bit surprising seeing how warscroll specific warscrolls are almost extinct in aos3 books. Also annoying as double shoot/fight shouldn't be easy CA. And annoying as increases odds book is still morathi+bow snakes.

Hopefully bogus rumour

 DaveC wrote:
Image of the pitched battle points for the Sylvaneth vs Skaven box doing the rounds.

Echoes of Doom seems to be the box sets name.

Sylvaneth get
Lady of the Vines
Spirit of Durthu
3 Kurnoth Hunters
5 Gossamid Archers

Skaven get
Deathmaster
20 Clan rats
10 Stormvermin
Grey Seer on Screaming Bell

Skaven are at a near 500 point disadvantage!

Holy gak I hope this box is real.

Which part of the box are you more interested in, Chaos?

Both halves. Already have plenty of Sylvaneth but i could use some more treelords and hunters + the new minis are nice.

I wish there was more on the skaven side if the point disparity is really that big, but I've been wanting to get into ratmen for a while and picking up 2 boxes seems like a good starting point for the army once you factor in the various odds and ends I've accumulated for them over the years (mainly stormfiends, warp lightning cannons and doom wheels).

Seen very legit looking pitched battle profile and box content pics.

Clanrats get d3 models back in battleshock, stormvermin got 4+ bodyguard(+2 with verminus), gained +1 for to hit but lost point of reach and both got save characteristic increase instead of shield rule.

The only thing I really would not want is another Treeman from that box... but shoot, why not get a 4th one.

I'm sure their next battletome is going to include a build where you can take them as battleline, so why not have 4 or 5 lol

Honestly, I was surprised to not see Kurnoth Hunters as Battleline if General is a Free Spirit or something like that.

Photos of the Hedonites of Slaanesh White Dwarf update are floating around on social media. Nothing that seems to be a breakthough and puts them on a different level, as a good portion of their issues seemed tied to points cost.

Also, bought the Thondian Strongpoint today. Putting together the Ghur Noodle is a PITA. Got it in 3 subassemblies currently for painting, not looking forward to it.

Megadroth Remains is gonna be a breeze to paint though.