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I like it. Excited to see what else there is.

These are going to eat virtually every battleline alive:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/06/08/quicker-than-a-flash-the-spiterider-lancers-strike-at-foes-before-they-can-react/

I'm loving those models.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
These are going to eat virtually every battleline alive:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/06/08/quicker-than-a-flash-the-spiterider-lancers-strike-at-foes-before-they-can-react/

I dunno, average 2 damage from each model against a 4+ save with that attack profile. From what we have they seem more tanky, but we really need to see the whole warscroll.

The flying archers are the fun killers atm, doubling down on what the community already dislikes about MWs.

Generals Handbook, Sylvaneth, Skaven and a load of catch up stuff next week. The must have an over stock of Doomfire Warlocks to shift!

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/06/12/sunday-preview-dig-for-victory-with-roots-rats-and-rock-drillers/

I think that just leaves the Krondspine Incarnate, Thondia terrain, Deathmaster and Lady of Vines for separate releases (then the 2 Black Library minis)

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
These are going to eat virtually every battleline alive:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/06/08/quicker-than-a-flash-the-spiterider-lancers-strike-at-foes-before-they-can-react/

I dunno, average 2 damage from each model against a 4+ save with that attack profile. From what we have they seem more tanky, but we really need to see the whole warscroll.

The flying archers are the fun killers atm, doubling down on what the community already dislikes about MWs.

Well 12" range so one shot wonder. They shoot, another round at unleash hell if not shot to death and then die.

Nice to get the books and a full catchup of nearly everything. The Daughters vanguard was so close to perfection. Just needed to dump the dark riders and get khinari in there instead.

So, from the outside looking in... what's wrong with the Warlocks?

They aren't op broken and aren't unit you want to spam so makes spamming vanquard box not good idea.

Issue i have with that box is i already have 10 of those so warcry box plus character is still cheaper. Not sure do i need 3rd warlock squad

Out of interest, do we know what "Season 1" on the General's Handbook means? Is it a new labeling system with the whole span of 2022-2023 as the first season and the next one following a year later, or does GW plan to follow the 40k model and have several seasons a year in AoS, too?

No one knows for sure(gw hasn't said) but odds are multiple ghb in a year coming.

Thanks. Let's see what happens, then.

tneva82 wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
These are going to eat virtually every battleline alive:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/06/08/quicker-than-a-flash-the-spiterider-lancers-strike-at-foes-before-they-can-react/

I dunno, average 2 damage from each model against a 4+ save with that attack profile. From what we have they seem more tanky, but we really need to see the whole warscroll.

The flying archers are the fun killers atm, doubling down on what the community already dislikes about MWs.

Well 12" range so one shot wonder. They shoot, another round at unleash hell if not shot to death and then die.

Or they have other units in front of them, the default tactic for squishy ranged units...?


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tneva82 wrote:
No one knows for sure(gw hasn't said) but odds are multiple ghb in a year coming.

Ugh, I really hope not. The GHBs have been great, but not twice-a-year great.

I wonder if GHB Seasons are GW perhaps merging the GHB with campaign seasons rather than having them as separate things?

Would make sense, since they proclaimed Thondia as a "Season of War" bit.

Prices

 DaveC wrote:
Prices

30 GBP for the GHB. What was the last one? 25?

Are Skaven ever going to get a range refresh?
Their models are old as gak and look terrible.

 dan2026 wrote:
Are Skaven ever going to get a range refresh?
Their models are old as gak and look terrible.

Not all of them are terrible.

A good many are pretty solid.

That said yes they do need a range update; but AoS is rife with armies that need range updates or extensions. Don't forget it wasn't that long ago that people were predicting that GW as going to remove Slaanesh from the game since they'd not had any new models in ages; not even a new Keeper whilst all the other Chaos gods got a new greater demon model. Meanwhile you've got armies like Flesheaters where almost the entire army is in one boxed set plus one or two leader models outside of it.

Or armies like Ossiarchs or Fyreslayers which are fairly new (newish for fyreslayers now) and clearly need a second wave of models to flesh out their range with more diversity, choice and units filling different roles for the table.


Then you hit the huge mess that is Cities of Sigmar which has some fragments of some forces; whole armies of others and no real clear indication of what GW will do with any of it. Will they keep all or some; will they drop all or some; will they fragment it into subforces; will they parcel out forces to others - eg remerge the dark elves into a single force under the DoK etc...



Skaven are one of many and in many ways whilst they've old models they have a big advantage in having a very diverse and large range of models. It's very clear Skaven are here to stay and they don't lack for diversity or choice.

One thing skaven could do with is skyre acolytes. 14.5e for single model you need 5 for minimum unit? Which is supposed to be battleline option? Oh dear. Wonder how many even have unit...

Of course the character I'm interested in is more expensive than the others. Go figure.

tneva82 wrote:
One thing skaven could do with is skyre acolytes. 14.5e for single model you need 5 for minimum unit? Which is supposed to be battleline option? Oh dear. Wonder how many even have unit...

Me and a bud went and calculated the most financially expensive army that could fit into 500 points for AoS. It was a warlock-engineer with acolytes and totaled approximately $410

Yea pretty sure it's most expensive(cash wise) battleline.

Not even expensive in points...main thing would be bl tax for more stormfiends in skyre army.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/06/13/gang-up-on-your-enemies-in-a-furry-tide-with-battletome-skaven/


3" combat range seems pretty nasty, if you can have enough big dangerous units to exploit it.

Interesting to see if spears gets any buff. With 20 guys sword or spear irrelevant range wise. 10 swords will have little trouble with 25mm bases anyway.

Screaming bell gets -1 to hit in melee, thanquol and screaming bell can'w retreat out of combat in combat phase.

tneva82 wrote:
Interesting to see if spears gets any buff. With 20 guys sword or spear irrelevant range wise. 10 swords will have little trouble with 25mm bases anyway.

Screaming bell gets -1 to hit in melee, thanquol and screaming bell can'w retreat out of combat in combat phase.

We might see clanrats getting the deathrattle skeletons treatment, with both spears and blades being folded into one weapon.

Also would need to apply to plague monks but yes that's certainly option though would have expected box set warscroll be like that. We'll see.

Hope not. I like a lot of the consolidation that has happened but that is a bit too much for me. Could make spears a defensive weapon with a bonus against chargers.

It would be a good thing to have the skeleton rattle treatment for skaven clanrats / plague monks weapons. Let it be simply visual, without any optimization to ruin your way to build models.

Given the rule showed in the preview, I assume it will be what we'll get.

If not spears needs something or choice ls so lopsided not funny. 15-19 models too small niche for spears. Less and swords reach all anyway, 20 swords have max reach as well