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2022/06/03 14:52:44
Subject: AOS N&R (Chaos P. 75, WHfest P.83, Skaven Preview pg 87)
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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I like it. Excited to see what else there is.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2022/06/03 14:54:30
Road to Renown! It's like classic Path to Glory, but repaired, remastered, expanded! https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/778170.page
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2022/06/08 14:32:37
Subject: AOS N&R (Chaos P. 75, WHfest P.83, Skaven Preview pg 87)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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2022/06/08 14:49:50
Subject: AOS N&R (Chaos P. 75, WHfest P.83, Skaven Preview pg 87)
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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I'm loving those models.
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2022/06/08 16:11:11
Subject: AOS N&R (Chaos P. 75, WHfest P.83, Skaven Preview pg 87)
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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I dunno, average 2 damage from each model against a 4+ save with that attack profile. From what we have they seem more tanky, but we really need to see the whole warscroll.
The flying archers are the fun killers atm, doubling down on what the community already dislikes about MWs.
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Road to Renown! It's like classic Path to Glory, but repaired, remastered, expanded! https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/778170.page
I chose an avatar I feel best represents the quality of my post history.
I try to view Warhammer as more of a toolbox with examples than fully complete games. |
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2022/06/12 17:07:31
Subject: Re:AOS N&R (Chaos P. 75, WHfest P.83, Skaven Preview pg 87)
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Fixture of Dakka
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Generals Handbook, Sylvaneth, Skaven and a load of catch up stuff next week. The must have an over stock of Doomfire Warlocks to shift!
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/06/12/sunday-preview-dig-for-victory-with-roots-rats-and-rock-drillers/
I think that just leaves the Krondspine Incarnate, Thondia terrain, Deathmaster and Lady of Vines for separate releases (then the 2 Black Library minis)
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2022/06/12 17:15:17
Subject: AOS N&R (Chaos P. 75, WHfest P.83, Skaven Preview pg 87)
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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NinthMusketeer wrote:I dunno, average 2 damage from each model against a 4+ save with that attack profile. From what we have they seem more tanky, but we really need to see the whole warscroll.
The flying archers are the fun killers atm, doubling down on what the community already dislikes about MWs.
Well 12" range so one shot wonder. They shoot, another round at unleash hell if not shot to death and then die.
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2022/06/12 17:15:53
Subject: AOS N&R (Chaos P. 75, WHfest P.83, Skaven Preview pg 87)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Nice to get the books and a full catchup of nearly everything. The Daughters vanguard was so close to perfection. Just needed to dump the dark riders and get khinari in there instead.
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2022/06/12 17:46:50
Subject: AOS N&R (Chaos P. 75, WHfest P.83, Skaven Preview pg 87)
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Fixture of Dakka
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So, from the outside looking in... what's wrong with the Warlocks?
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling. - No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
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2022/06/12 17:49:41
Subject: AOS N&R (Chaos P. 75, WHfest P.83, Skaven Preview pg 87)
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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They aren't op broken and aren't unit you want to spam so makes spamming vanquard box not good idea.
Issue i have with that box is i already have 10 of those so warcry box plus character is still cheaper. Not sure do i need 3rd warlock squad
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2022/06/12 17:55:23
Subject: Re:AOS N&R (Chaos P. 75, WHfest P.83, Skaven Preview pg 87)
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Huge Bone Giant
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Out of interest, do we know what "Season 1" on the General's Handbook means? Is it a new labeling system with the whole span of 2022-2023 as the first season and the next one following a year later, or does GW plan to follow the 40k model and have several seasons a year in AoS, too?
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Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
Why is the rum always gone? |
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2022/06/12 17:56:05
Subject: AOS N&R (Chaos P. 75, WHfest P.83, Skaven Preview pg 87)
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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No one knows for sure(gw hasn't said) but odds are multiple ghb in a year coming.
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2022/06/12 18:14:39
Subject: Re:AOS N&R (Chaos P. 75, WHfest P.83, Skaven Preview pg 87)
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Huge Bone Giant
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Thanks. Let's see what happens, then.
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Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
Why is the rum always gone? |
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2022/06/12 18:20:15
Subject: AOS N&R (Chaos P. 75, WHfest P.83, Skaven Preview pg 87)
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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tneva82 wrote: NinthMusketeer wrote:I dunno, average 2 damage from each model against a 4+ save with that attack profile. From what we have they seem more tanky, but we really need to see the whole warscroll.
The flying archers are the fun killers atm, doubling down on what the community already dislikes about MWs.
Well 12" range so one shot wonder. They shoot, another round at unleash hell if not shot to death and then die.
Or they have other units in front of them, the default tactic for squishy ranged units...? Automatically Appended Next Post: tneva82 wrote:No one knows for sure( gw hasn't said) but odds are multiple ghb in a year coming.
Ugh, I really hope not. The GHBs have been great, but not twice-a-year great.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2022/06/12 18:22:01
Road to Renown! It's like classic Path to Glory, but repaired, remastered, expanded! https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/778170.page
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2022/06/12 18:40:01
Subject: AOS N&R (Chaos P. 75, WHfest P.83, Skaven Preview pg 87)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I wonder if GHB Seasons are GW perhaps merging the GHB with campaign seasons rather than having them as separate things?
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2022/06/12 19:04:52
Subject: AOS N&R (Chaos P. 75, WHfest P.83, Skaven Preview pg 87)
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Would make sense, since they proclaimed Thondia as a "Season of War" bit.
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2022/06/13 08:21:36
Subject: Re:AOS N&R (Chaos P. 75, WHfest P.83, Skaven+Sylvaneth Battletome, GHB Preorder Jun 18)
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Fixture of Dakka
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Prices
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2022/06/13 09:18:31
Subject: Re:AOS N&R (Chaos P. 75, WHfest P.83, Skaven+Sylvaneth Battletome, GHB Preorder Jun 18)
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Experienced Maneater
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30 GBP for the GHB. What was the last one? 25?
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2022/06/13 09:24:52
Subject: AOS N&R (Chaos P. 75, WHfest P.83, Skaven+Sylvaneth Battletome, GHB Preorder Jun 18)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Are Skaven ever going to get a range refresh?
Their models are old as gak and look terrible.
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2022/06/13 09:29:30
Subject: AOS N&R (Chaos P. 75, WHfest P.83, Skaven+Sylvaneth Battletome, GHB Preorder Jun 18)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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dan2026 wrote:Are Skaven ever going to get a range refresh?
Their models are old as gak and look terrible.
Not all of them are terrible.
A good many are pretty solid.
That said yes they do need a range update; but AoS is rife with armies that need range updates or extensions. Don't forget it wasn't that long ago that people were predicting that GW as going to remove Slaanesh from the game since they'd not had any new models in ages; not even a new Keeper whilst all the other Chaos gods got a new greater demon model. Meanwhile you've got armies like Flesheaters where almost the entire army is in one boxed set plus one or two leader models outside of it.
Or armies like Ossiarchs or Fyreslayers which are fairly new (newish for fyreslayers now) and clearly need a second wave of models to flesh out their range with more diversity, choice and units filling different roles for the table.
Then you hit the huge mess that is Cities of Sigmar which has some fragments of some forces; whole armies of others and no real clear indication of what GW will do with any of it. Will they keep all or some; will they drop all or some; will they fragment it into subforces; will they parcel out forces to others - eg remerge the dark elves into a single force under the DoK etc...
Skaven are one of many and in many ways whilst they've old models they have a big advantage in having a very diverse and large range of models. It's very clear Skaven are here to stay and they don't lack for diversity or choice.
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2022/06/13 09:34:58
Subject: AOS N&R (Chaos P. 75, WHfest P.83, Skaven+Sylvaneth Battletome, GHB Preorder Jun 18)
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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One thing skaven could do with is skyre acolytes. 14.5e for single model you need 5 for minimum unit? Which is supposed to be battleline option? Oh dear. Wonder how many even have unit...
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2022/06/13 09:37:38
Subject: Re:AOS N&R (Chaos P. 75, WHfest P.83, Skaven+Sylvaneth Battletome, GHB Preorder Jun 18)
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Huge Bone Giant
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Of course the character I'm interested in is more expensive than the others. Go figure.
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Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
Why is the rum always gone? |
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2022/06/13 10:28:40
Subject: AOS N&R (Chaos P. 75, WHfest P.83, Skaven+Sylvaneth Battletome, GHB Preorder Jun 18)
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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tneva82 wrote:One thing skaven could do with is skyre acolytes. 14.5e for single model you need 5 for minimum unit? Which is supposed to be battleline option? Oh dear. Wonder how many even have unit...
Me and a bud went and calculated the most financially expensive army that could fit into 500 points for AoS. It was a warlock-engineer with acolytes and totaled approximately $410
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Road to Renown! It's like classic Path to Glory, but repaired, remastered, expanded! https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/778170.page
I chose an avatar I feel best represents the quality of my post history.
I try to view Warhammer as more of a toolbox with examples than fully complete games. |
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2022/06/13 10:44:17
Subject: AOS N&R (Chaos P. 75, WHfest P.83, Skaven+Sylvaneth Battletome, GHB Preorder Jun 18)
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Yea pretty sure it's most expensive(cash wise) battleline.
Not even expensive in points...main thing would be bl tax for more stormfiends in skyre army.
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2022/06/13 14:36:32
Subject: AOS N&R (Chaos P. 75, WHfest P.83, Skaven+Sylvaneth Battletome, GHB Preorder Jun 18)
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Terrifying Doombull
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Efficiency is the highest virtue. |
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2022/06/13 15:31:02
Subject: AOS N&R (Chaos P. 75, WHfest P.83, Skaven+Sylvaneth Battletome, GHB Preorder Jun 18)
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Interesting to see if spears gets any buff. With 20 guys sword or spear irrelevant range wise. 10 swords will have little trouble with 25mm bases anyway.
Screaming bell gets -1 to hit in melee, thanquol and screaming bell can'w retreat out of combat in combat phase.
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2022/06/13 15:33:57
Subject: AOS N&R (Chaos P. 75, WHfest P.83, Skaven+Sylvaneth Battletome, GHB Preorder Jun 18)
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
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tneva82 wrote:Interesting to see if spears gets any buff. With 20 guys sword or spear irrelevant range wise. 10 swords will have little trouble with 25mm bases anyway.
Screaming bell gets -1 to hit in melee, thanquol and screaming bell can'w retreat out of combat in combat phase.
We might see clanrats getting the deathrattle skeletons treatment, with both spears and blades being folded into one weapon.
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2022/06/13 15:58:30
Subject: AOS N&R (Chaos P. 75, WHfest P.83, Skaven+Sylvaneth Battletome, GHB Preorder Jun 18)
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Also would need to apply to plague monks but yes that's certainly option though would have expected box set warscroll be like that. We'll see.
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2022/06/13 17:30:05
Subject: AOS N&R (Chaos P. 75, WHfest P.83, Skaven+Sylvaneth Battletome, GHB Preorder Jun 18)
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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Hope not. I like a lot of the consolidation that has happened but that is a bit too much for me. Could make spears a defensive weapon with a bonus against chargers.
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Road to Renown! It's like classic Path to Glory, but repaired, remastered, expanded! https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/778170.page
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2022/06/13 17:36:36
Subject: Re:AOS N&R (Chaos P. 75, WHfest P.83, Skaven+Sylvaneth Battletome, GHB Preorder Jun 18)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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It would be a good thing to have the skeleton rattle treatment for skaven clanrats / plague monks weapons. Let it be simply visual, without any optimization to ruin your way to build models.
Given the rule showed in the preview, I assume it will be what we'll get.
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2022/06/13 17:44:56
Subject: AOS N&R (Chaos P. 75, WHfest P.83, Skaven+Sylvaneth Battletome, GHB Preorder Jun 18)
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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If not spears needs something or choice ls so lopsided not funny. 15-19 models too small niche for spears. Less and swords reach all anyway, 20 swords have max reach as well
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