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Yeh different effect but undivided been a thing in aos

 CMLR wrote:
Manticores no longer bracket, and the overall tome is just insane.

Just to remind you that this WarCom stuff has already been leaked a while ago.

 rybackstun wrote:
Love seeing Slaves to Darkness get buffs and new toys

And rumors on new Marauders or Darkoath? The Conan/tribal vibe is something I'm hoping for.

tneva82 wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Really liking the Ogor box. Makes the Sylvaneth one look sparse.

Well adding monsters does that...As is that sylvaneth box is pure gold for new sylvaneth players. 2 is EASILY worth it. 3-4 isn't even unreasonable if you want to play both kurnoth and treelord heavy armies.

Ogor book remains to be seen how worthwhile cannons and leadbelchers are and do gluttons really work but sylvaneth one is very good value. Pre-ogors considered sylvaneth one best one so far(contents got leaked months ago. Been waiting for that box since then though in the meanwhile kind of lost motivation for sylvaneth as it's so non-interactive army...)

I'm sure you are correct for the current meta. As I'm mostly skipping 3rd edition I tend to just look at financial value and how cool the contents look, or utility in other games. The Ogor box looks like you're actually getting an army so I think it's a more satisyfing purchase (and I kinda wanted everything in it except the lord to expand my KoW army, so a no brainer for me with the big discount)

Well if you expect to get big monster kit for 1/5 of infantry kit you will always be dissapointed...

Cash wise they are all about same value. Some bit more, some bit less but no drastic. Bigger effect comes in how multi-purchable it is and in that sylvaneth is gold as apart hero all kits build multiple things. You start losing value after about 6 of those...ogors? 6 is lot harder to justify

I hope we get a clear look at the alternative daemon prince build soon. The head looks better than the helmeted one or the one shown for the 40k version

 GaroRobe wrote:
I hope we get a clear look at the alternative daemon prince build soon. The head looks better than the helmeted one or the one shown for the 40k version

Really it depends on how many the studio has painted up. I wouldn't put it past them to only have two done - the AoS one and the 40k one - and they just painted the various extra heads to show them off as, IIRC, we haven't seen them actually attached to the rest of the body.

I wonder how much he's going to cost as well. Be'lakor levels, or Avatar?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:
I hope we get a clear look at the alternative daemon prince build soon. The head looks better than the helmeted one or the one shown for the 40k version

Really it depends on how many the studio has painted up. I wouldn't put it past them to only have two done - the AoS one and the 40k one - and they just painted the various extra heads to show them off as, IIRC, we haven't seen them actually attached to the rest of the body.

I wonder how much he's going to cost as well. Be'lakor levels, or Avatar?

Mind you with GW they tend to keep parts separate anyway...so the heads likely ARE separate as are arms etc and the pieces are then assembled for photoshot.

There's even cases of model missing parts in photos. especially 360 ones Or blu-tack visible.

There’s definitely not 4 whole DPs painted, the details of the paintjob are identical between them there. But you can kind of see them in context of the body there.

 ImAGeek wrote:
There’s definitely not 4 whole DPs painted, the details of the paintjob are identical between them there. But you can kind of see them in context of the body there.

Yay, that black void on the left side of those heads is pretty glaring.

They don't look attached, just copypasta'd on.

So my point stands.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
They don't look attached, just copypasta'd on.

Because they are. They forgot to photoshop half the model with the "correct" skin color.

Giving a greater daemon head to a Dp is jsut stupid. The only one that looks remotely good is the Slaanesh one. The BT and GUO look especially dumb, like a greater daemon has decided to dress up as a space marine. Probably gonna be the generic head for me, if I buy this.

JWBS wrote:
The only one that looks remotely good is the Slaanesh one.

All is as it should be. Praise the Prince!

JWBS wrote:
Giving a greater daemon head to a Dp is jsut stupid. The only one that looks remotely good is the Slaanesh one. The BT and GUO look especially dumb, like a greater daemon has decided to dress up as a space marine. Probably gonna be the generic head for me, if I buy this.

The Tzeentch head isn't avian enough for my taste. Where are the feathers?!

Also, looking back at the leaks, it feels like Tzeentch got crapped on in this book. Easily the worst of the five marks.

 legionaires wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
There’s definitely not 4 whole DPs painted, the details of the paintjob are identical between them there. But you can kind of see them in context of the body there.

Yay, that black void on the left side of those heads is pretty glaring.

I didn't even notice that haha. They didn't bother with the left side at all. The right side of the backpack is tinted to match the DP's head, but they didn't do it to the other side.

 GaroRobe wrote:

 legionaires wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
There’s definitely not 4 whole DPs painted, the details of the paintjob are identical between them there. But you can kind of see them in context of the body there.

Yay, that black void on the left side of those heads is pretty glaring.

I didn't even notice that haha. They didn't both with the left side at all. The right side of the backpack is tinted to match the DP's head, but they didn't do it to the other side.

I posted it and I didn’t even notice haha.

Black voids are a good way to hide stuff, your brain kind of naturally tunes that out. Why matte black flight stands are better than clear plastic ones.

 AduroT wrote:
Black voids are a good way to hide stuff, your brain kind of naturally tunes that out. Why matte black flight stands are better than clear plastic ones.

It's also a good trick when painting complex models where you can't get your brush into all the regions. You coat them black and your brain just goes "Oh its shadowing"

3 out of 4 tongues akimbo too...

Here is my unboxing & review of the new Slaves to Darkness army set. Incl. high-res sprue pics, size comparison of the new Chaos Chosen, and a few observations about the new models & rules:

https://taleofpainters.com/2022/11/review-slaves-to-darkness-army-set/

Chosen are quite large, but there are only five unique bodies. Daemon Prince is amazing though, so many options & many not shown on the promo pictures!

 stahly wrote:
Daemon Prince is amazing though, so many options & many not shown on the promo pictures!

I simply cannot wait for you to show them to us.

I might have bought two...

Oh, side question: The instruction booklet in this box, does it tell you how to build any DP option, or just the AoS version? Answered in the article!

[EDIT]: Surprised he's on a 60mm vs the Avatar's 80mm base. I really am curious to find out how much this guy is going to cost on his own.

I'm kind of pleased that its a 60mm base - means my old metal Slaanesh Keeper can certainly still stand in for a Demon price alongside this great new kit!

I think it also helps reinforce that a prince isn't above a greater demon; that the greater demons are huge and powerful and on a whole different level to a simple prince (which isn't to say that princes are not powerful monsters in their own right of course)

 Overread wrote:
I'm kind of please that its a 60mm base - means my old metal Slaanesh Keeper can certainly still stand in for a Demon price alongside this great new kit!

Should mean he also won't dwarf the "current" Daemon Prince.

 Overread wrote:
I think it also helps reinforce that a prince isn't above a greater demon; that the greater demons are huge and powerful and on a whole different level to a simple prince (which isn't to say that princes are not powerful monsters in their own right of course)

That's a really good point that I hadn't thought of.

Well, with the Avatar in plastic and a great new DP in plastic, I can finally build my own Daemon Prince: Excommunicate Traitoris Horatio Lethus, a Khorne-dedicated former Ultramarine Captain who hates the Tau with endless fury and is forced to wield the Wailing Doom of the Avatar he killed prior to ascending to Daemonhood. The blade is fused to his hand, and he now searches for any means to free himself of the 'Ulthwe Blade', as it is known. He's put entire worlds to the torch in his search, but has yet to be successful (we've played many games centred around this guy!). And yeah, I've got two boxes of Skulls, which includes all the Tau skulls.

Has anyone posted the daemon prince head that was used for the trophy rack one? I don’t think it’s the 40k one

https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/BvKCDxmVrJ2AdcXO.pdf

Slaves to darkness tome errata

Christmas Battleforce Boxes :

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/11/07/treat-yourself-this-christmas-with-a-choice-of-seven-warhammer-age-of-sigmar-battleforces/

Seeing the Plague Monks in that Skaven Battleforce box makes me sad. Can't speak to their effectiveness in the new tome, its just that its an old, inefficient kit. So much wasted space on the sprues from what I remember. Stormvermin would've probably given the box a better look.

Also, seems like a missed opportunity to not have a Slaves to Darkness box set as well, to strike while the iron is hot on its new releases.

I'd have been very shocked if they did a Slaves one considering they're brand new. I'd take a bet that'll be one for next year.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
I'd have been very shocked if they did a Slaves one considering they're brand new. I'd take a bet that'll be one for next year.

True enough. Probably didn't want to steal any thunder from the new releases.