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 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Looks very cool, now let's have the whole range move into this style.

Next for ghouls is a Warcy warband, right? So next year to see if they decided to follow this style.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Can anyone guesstimate RRP?

The recent novel tie in vampire is 27€. Bit skinny himself but has a big old tactical tree stump. Radukar has the bulk but no tactical scenery, for 31.50€. I think this kind of commemorative character box tops out at 34€ currently.

At a guess I'd say it's going to be 34€ because it's another commemorative series model. However that guess is mostly based on GW being GW. It should be noted that this year's Warhammer+ models were cheaper than last year's, so we can't rule out that this model is not going to use the top price bracket for its kind.

Quite a nice model and, yes, its quite like the Genestealer Patriarch of old. I think I'll make the effort to pick this one up!

That is 3 or 4 rumor engine pics solved too.

He looks like the evil king villain from Voltron back in the day! 😅

Looks pretty snazzy! Going to have to remember to pick him up.

John D Law wrote:
He looks like the evil king villain from Voltron back in the day! 😅

Emperor Zarkon!

This has come from TGA, so probably utter bs. But who knows, could be partially right:

>January
S2D full release
Beast of Chaos:
New Beastlord
No other new models
Some resin kits may get range rotated (not 100%)
General's Handbook with big (bone?) Spider
>February
Gloomspite Gitz:
Snarlfang Riders
Gitmob hero
Snarlfang Chariot with shaman option
Sylvaneth-size release
Completely reworked Bad Moon: constant passive effect with chance to wane/wax depending on amount of friendly losses
>March
Seraphon:
New "big dino" with magic structure on top
Kroxigors
Razordon/Salamander Pack dual kit (2 bigger lizards)
Saurus Guard with leader options
More Azyr looking Saurus Sunblood/Eternity Warden?
>April
Blades of Khorne vs Hedonites box (again)
New single Hedonite foot hero
New single Khorne foot hero (named?)
>May
Flesh-eater Courts:
"Court wizard" shaman
New "mid-size" ghouls (Melee/Ranged)
Ossiarch Bonereapers:
New Mortisan (manipulates enemy units)

>June
Cities of Sigmar (before 40k 10th edition):
"Azyrite" = new units, not subfaction (calling them this for simplicity/lack of details)
Azyrite Guard (Halberd/Small weapon (mace, sword, axe) options)
Azyrite Gunners ("Musketeers", special option for hand cannon with shield (bigger base like Skitarii))
Azyrite Knights (Regular Knight/Outrider dual kit)
Azyrite Elite (think new Greatswords/Mace, Sword, Hammer options, big armour)
Azyrite Ogors (Chunky armour, big halberd + option for pistol for leader)
Azyrite General (Sculpted base, mix of Elite, Gunner and Guard aesthetics but fancier)
Azyrite Mage (One mini, many options)
Azyrite Priest (Big Fantasy Warrior Priest aesthetic, think that big Dawnbringer picture from core book)
Flagellants (More grimdark, less flamehead/not-carried chains)
Azyrite Artillery (New spin on Helblaster/Helstorm + regular cannon. One duardin crew member)
Azyrite Walker (Vaguely similar to Steam Tank/Gyrocopter. Think 40k Sentinel but more Steampunk + AoS)
Azyrite General on big beast (Centerpiece, option for named hero)
All current human kits cut except for Steam Tank
All Wanderers cut
Duardin/non-human Ironweld fine
Darkling Covens cut back (no basic infantry) + combined with Shadowblades (Shadow Warriors cut)
Privateers/Order Serpentis combined and slightly trimmed (no chariot)
Big Dawnbringer Crusade Path to Glory section in BT
>August
Kharadron Overlords:
New foot hero (record keeper/accountant looking)
>September
Soulblight Gravelords:
New Necromancer
New Grave Guard/Skeleton crossbows dual kit

A lot of that sounds pretty sensible and practical.

Kind of surprising GW would pull back on the old Dark Elf army stuff - if I were them I'd just throw together some lore, throw out a battletome and a few new leader models and BOOM new army and faction in the game.


Ossiarchs only getting a new leader is, I mean its great and all but its not the archers nor monsters I hope for

 Overread wrote:
Kind of surprising GW would pull back on the old Dark Elf army stuff - if I were them I'd just throw together some lore, throw out a battletome and a few new leader models and BOOM new army and faction in the game.

GW still haven't done anything with Malekith - the Dark Elves could all go work for him again.

 Overread wrote:
Ossiarchs only getting a new leader is, I mean its great and all but its not the archers nor monsters I hope for

Same month as a couple of Flesheater releases looks like a wasted opportunity for a 'Flesh & Bone' battlebox.

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

 Overread wrote:
Kind of surprising GW would pull back on the old Dark Elf army stuff - if I were them I'd just throw together some lore, throw out a battletome and a few new leader models and BOOM new army and faction in the game.

GW still haven't done anything with Malekith - the Dark Elves could all go work for him again.

At the same time they already set out that Malekith's army is more twisted toward dragons for the newly formed ones; whilst the regulars are all shadow aelves which might well have mist-effect all over them.


Right now he's almost like Cathay and Nippon - major in the story and yet totally absent from the table. It is surprising GW haven't brought them out; but at the same time they've a LOT of armies that need attention now and already have customers.

Yep this list is outright delusional, that's almost as much stuff as AoS has gotten in all of its existance crammed into 6 months.

What? You're not even close.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Yep this list is outright delusional, that's almost as much stuff as AoS has gotten in all of its existance crammed into 6 months.

The list might well be delusional, but in volume it is nowhere near 25% of what has been released for AOS since it started.

Heck, I don't think this list would even match SCE releases since AOS began.

 Dysartes wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Yep this list is outright delusional, that's almost as much stuff as AoS has gotten in all of its existance crammed into 6 months.

The list might well be delusional, but in volume it is nowhere near 25% of what has been released for AOS since it started.

Heck, I don't think this list would even match SCE releases since AOS began.

Excluding books and various starter sets, I count 62 entries on GW's website.

I count roughly 36 entries in this wishlist.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Yep this list is outright delusional, that's almost as much stuff as AoS has gotten in all of its existance crammed into 6 months.

In the first six months of 2021 Lumineth got 11 new kits, Slaanesh got 8 new kits, and Soulblight got 11 new kits not counting cursed City. They also released Gardus, the Slaanesh twins, Be'lakor, a new Nighthaunt hero, Kroak, the Van Dents and some endless spells for DoK. In that time period there were 4 battletomes and three campaign books. That's 37 kits and 7 books.

This list has 33 kits in 9 months so a release schedule similar to this literally happened last year.

That said the most reliable AoS source of rumours said this was shrewd guesswork. That same individual has said that we are getting more than one kit for FEC and GW themselves have listed the many books that are coming out next year. They've also confirmed Cities of Sigmar for 2023 and publicly said it's one of their biggest releases for AoS ever.
The real question marks are just the Seraphon release and the Soulblight release. There are two unsolved rumour engines that are definitely Seraphon so they could well be in line for more than the usual single model. As for Soulblight, I just feel it's unlikely that GW will give them a ranged option.


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 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Yep this list is outright delusional, that's almost as much stuff as AoS has gotten in all of its existance crammed into 6 months.

The list might well be delusional, but in volume it is nowhere near 25% of what has been released for AOS since it started.

Heck, I don't think this list would even match SCE releases since AOS began.

Excluding books and various starter sets, I count 62 entries on GW's website.

I count roughly 36 entries in this wishlist.

I'm not sure what you are talking about. I did a quick count and if you remove dual builds, bundles and books there are still about 185 kits in the order section alone.

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 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Yep this list is outright delusional, that's almost as much stuff as AoS has gotten in all of its existance crammed into 6 months.

The list might well be delusional, but in volume it is nowhere near 25% of what has been released for AOS since it started.

Heck, I don't think this list would even match SCE releases since AOS began.

Excluding books and various starter sets, I count 62 entries on GW's website.

I count roughly 36 entries in this wishlist.

I'm not sure what you are talking about. I did a quick count and if you remove dual builds, bundles and books there are still about 185 kits in the order section alone.

He's looking at the Stormcast faction alone, which being a totally new army is all 100% new releases. Not sure if he removed duel kits or not from that count, which would bring it down a bit if not. However it still shows that GW have released WAY more than just 40 odd new kits for AoS since its launch and Stormcast came out pretty thick and fast.

So in other news, just finished the Drekki Flynt novel and a few chapters dealing with Grotbag Scuttlers directly went into details that could be describing future units. COULD be, this is very circumstantial and definitely needs to be taken with a reasonably large degree of salt.

"Kaptin Blackheart" is a grot pirate admiral with definite 'faction lead named character' vibes. His ship, on the other hand, seems far too large to be a miniature (it is pulled by two Maw Crushas which roost below decks, to give an idea). However it had some interesting elements that could just be the author or could be something more:
-Inflated gas-squig used for lift
-Catapults firing squigs and/or bundles of snotlings. Very much still alive in both cases.
-A wide range of scrappy aethetic construction and weapons. A lot of wood, a lot of arrows, a lot of guns.

There was, and gosh I hope this ends up as a mini one day, a flying machine which worked by a central spine of grot 'rowers' working an integral pump mechanism that flaps gigantic wings on the ships' sides.

Units of doom-diver-esque elite grots who fly in, land, and pull swords rather than the decidedly more... terminal tactics of actual doom divers. Definitely had 'flying infantry kit' vibes.

Another 'elite' unit involving large guns, maybe a jezzail sort of thing? Was hard to tell from the brief description.

Generic grotbag skyships had too much variety to all be miniatures, so it is impossible to say which could be.

And at least 8 of the kits on that list are clampack/box set single characters, not full sized units.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
What? You're not even close.

Well he's lord_blackfang. Exaggaration without any basis to reality is trademark of his

That rumor list is a great combo of wishlist (Seraphon stuff is too good to be true!), educated guess(Everyone knows the Bad Moon mechanics are changing), boring( Khorne v. Slaanesh boxed set, with Heroes on foot? groan) and other stuff we already know, along with some jarring omissions, like the fate of remaining High Elf kits where other kits are cut/trimmed.

Would be nice if its true, but I'll remain skeptical until we get visual confirmation.

The Cities of Sigmar/'Azyrite' stuff is a big flag for me.

The last Dawnbringer crusade article conflated Dawnbringers and CoS, and even if they aren't planning a merger, doing two mostly normal human factions within a [year+?] time frame seems very unlikely. And the Dawnbringers are a bit further off then June, based on how they've described showing off the releases and updates as like the 40k Sisters process (which was something like 18+ months, and, iirc, had a lot more to show off at '6 months to release' than a few digital bits and weapons).

Wasn't a big flag for me, since it seems to be making it clear that the "Azyrite" notes are more to distinguish them as humans with an Azyrite flair.


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 nels1031 wrote:
That rumor list is a great combo of wishlist (Seraphon stuff is too good to be true!), educated guess(Everyone knows the Bad Moon mechanics are changing), boring( Khorne v. Slaanesh boxed set, with Heroes on foot? groan) and other stuff we already know, along with some jarring omissions, like the fate of remaining High Elf kits where other kits are cut/trimmed.

Would be nice if its true, but I'll remain skeptical until we get visual confirmation.

If Wanderers and Shadow Warriors are cut, that leaves just Phoenix Guard and Phoenixes as High Elf stuff.

Meh they seem made up or lacking important context to me. Either way it paints a picture I feel is inaccurate. No major flaws but a lot of little things, particularly there just isn't anything really crazy in there. The sort of 'no way that's true!' thing that GW inevitability pulls on us several times a year (in a good way).

To be fair sometimes that's just how they design a model.

"New ossiarch leader model" sounds ok but not exciting

"GW shows off new Ossiarch leader who's half dragon leading a flight of dragons on a huge diorama base"

Suddenly over-the-top-hype.
The list is practical, more so than a good few wishlist types which often tend to focus on just adding loads of stuff.

But the proof is in the pudding. We'll know if its any way near accurate later

Not sure if another diorama miniature is what people want.

Maybe expanding the Ossiach range to have not a single model but entire units of this guy would be a good start.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Not sure if another diorama miniature is what people want.

Maybe expanding the Ossiach range to have not a single model but entire units of this guy would be a good start.

Shooting in death ?! It's more likely then you think !

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Not sure if another diorama miniature is what people want.

Maybe expanding the Ossiach range to have not a single model but entire units of this guy would be a good start.

I still want an Ossiarch dragon!

But yeah I was more using my example as a way to show how a simple statment of products can sound boring and dry because its without context of the model and that when you bring in details of what the model is the hype builds up.



And yes I want legions of archers, heck I'd like to seee the points costs for Ossiarchs come down so that they can field more things and then expand their range with a nice second wave. I feel like they are kind of where Lumieth were in that they've a solid core but they need more to attract a wider audience.

 Geifer wrote:
AoS Christmas model:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/12/12/this-years-boxing-day-miniature-has-a-next-level-party-hat/

GW wrote:This commemorative miniature will be available exclusively at Warhammer stores from Boxing Day* until Sunday the 8th of January 2023. You’ll be able to order it online between Saturday the 7th of January and Sunday the 15th of January, so dip your finger in blood – er, cranberry sauce – and circle your calendar.

*For those not in the UK, Boxing Day is the 26th December

Honestly, I thought the model was a Kruleboy or gobo at first. He's kinda disapointing after the amazinging looking Abhorrant Archregent.