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Excited to see AoS will be getting 6 new models in the span of 6 months.

Lumineth got to enjoy allies beyond idoneth for what? 3 months? 4?

Hope people didn't buy others as allies for lrl.


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 lord_blackfang wrote:
Excited to see AoS will be getting 6 new models in the span of 6 months.

I love it how you keep proving you can't even count. At least 11 new kits for sale in video. Nevermind actual models.


(not to mention gw has funny habit of not showing everything at once so if you think this is all...well i have one word describing how i feel about you. Pity.

I think the joke there was that for the most part new codex/battletome releases have generally been limited to a single new hero model per book, with only a handful receiving anything more than that.

chaos0xomega wrote:
I think the joke there was that for the most part new codex/battletome releases have generally been limited to a single new hero model per book, with only a handful receiving anything more than that.

Which is pretty normal.
Whilst we'd all love to see multiple factions getting big chunky additions, we have to be realistic that GW has a finite level of investment and production and that is split over multiple games. I'd love to see Skaven get a full line update; Dwarves to get a big release; Daughters of Khaine, Flesheaters and Ossiarchs to double or triple in kits. But not every army can stand up and take centre stage each month. Some get big additions in one go, some get drip fed.

Yes obviously we know StD are actually getting a model line but I mean the 6 books after that.

Tho Seraphon admittedly seem to have at least 2 models.


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 Overread wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
I think the joke there was that for the most part new codex/battletome releases have generally been limited to a single new hero model per book, with only a handful receiving anything more than that.

Which is pretty normal.
Whilst we'd all love to see multiple factions getting big chunky additions, we have to be realistic that GW has a finite level of investment and production and that is split over multiple games. I'd love to see Skaven get a full line update; Dwarves to get a big release; Daughters of Khaine, Flesheaters and Ossiarchs to double or triple in kits. But not every army can stand up and take centre stage each month. Some get big additions in one go, some get drip fed.

Bro they can tool 6 new sprues of terrain for a throwaway boxed game a couple of times each year, don't tell me it isn't realistic for FEC to get one plastic unit in 15 years.

Looks like a Lizardmen Saurus dude, the first shot looked like a Slann Palanquin, and then another one looked like one Lizard mounted on another Lizard. Not sure what the one after that was and whether it was another Lizard or something else.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Yes obviously we know StD are actually getting a model line but I mean the 6 books after that.

Tho Seraphon admittedly seem to have at least 2 models.


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 Overread wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
I think the joke there was that for the most part new codex/battletome releases have generally been limited to a single new hero model per book, with only a handful receiving anything more than that.

Which is pretty normal.
Whilst we'd all love to see multiple factions getting big chunky additions, we have to be realistic that GW has a finite level of investment and production and that is split over multiple games. I'd love to see Skaven get a full line update; Dwarves to get a big release; Daughters of Khaine, Flesheaters and Ossiarchs to double or triple in kits. But not every army can stand up and take centre stage each month. Some get big additions in one go, some get drip fed.

Bro they can tool 6 new sprues of terrain for a throwaway boxed game a couple of times each year, don't tell me it isn't realistic for FEC to get one plastic unit in 15 years.

Hey I'm still waiting on a plastic duel kit for Biovores and Pyrovores for Tyranids and a lictor/deathleaper one.

I'm 100% not saying that Gw works perfectly logically with what we want/need/desire - just that they do have some limits. I mean heck AoS has had loads of new models. Soulblight got a huge update; Nighthaunt, Stormcast, Luminieth are all chunky releases (ok Stormcast are double chunky)

 Tim the Biovore wrote:
Definitely a new Slaan a la Kroak, the CAD files for palanquin make that a no brainer. The Saurus doesn't have a tactical rock so my fingers are crossed that it's an update of the rank and file unit. Big feathered beastie ideally the new Cold Ones, I like the idea of a more "true" raptor design for the dinosaur faction to separate them from the Dark Elves. Very exciting stuff.

Science already ruined Jurassic Park. Do we really need it to ruin Warhammer as well?

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 Overread wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
I think the joke there was that for the most part new codex/battletome releases have generally been limited to a single new hero model per book, with only a handful receiving anything more than that.

Which is pretty normal.
Whilst we'd all love to see multiple factions getting big chunky additions, we have to be realistic that GW has a finite level of investment and production and that is split over multiple games. I'd love to see Skaven get a full line update; Dwarves to get a big release; Daughters of Khaine, Flesheaters and Ossiarchs to double or triple in kits. But not every army can stand up and take centre stage each month. Some get big additions in one go, some get drip fed.

Bro they can tool 6 new sprues of terrain for a throwaway boxed game a couple of times each year, don't tell me it isn't realistic for FEC to get one plastic unit in 15 years.

That's a question of priorities rather than production capacity. GW could have made plastic Sisters of Battle any time in the last twenty years, but we all know how that went. Flesheater Courts are kind of the same. They got the Archregent for one of their tomes, passing them over for a bigger range update that time around. Now they lucked out on the FOMO lottery and get a rather nice but super time limited Ghoul King, because after the King on dragon and the King +1 on foot that's what the faction needed, right? But luckily the model is limited so people don't have to worry about drowning in Ghoul Kings like they're Primaris Lieutenants. Another stroke of luck right there.

At the same time GW can do new Cadians, World Eaters, Slaves to Darkness, Squats, and whatever else I may have missed from the last three months. It's not production capacity. It's that whoever makes the decisions at GW consistently refuses to make a range update happen for this particular army.

Bro they can tool 6 new sprues of terrain for a throwaway boxed game a couple of times each year, don't tell me it isn't realistic for FEC to get one plastic unit in 15 years.

Well, the new Ghoul King is new so since the launch of AoS we've had 2 new unit kits if we ignore both Endless Spells and the terrain. We also technically got the Underworlds kit which I use as alternatives to ghoul leaders.

What I am more curious is to see if FEC is part of the next two Death releases, which would mean we only get 1 new/updated kit, or if FEC get a later release which might be bigger.

At the same time GW can do new Cadians, World Eaters, Slaves to Darkness, Squats, and whatever else I may have missed from the last three months. It's not production capacity. It's that whoever makes the decisions at GW consistently refuses to make a range update happen for this particular army.

My guess is that the playerbase of that army isn't that big to begin with which might be why GW isn't putting priority into it. However, we might be surprised later down the line and get a nice range update or at least an addition. Depends entirely on what GW projects what is best for the line regardless of whether we like ir not.

Personally I'd love to get a proper Varghulf plastic kit and maybe a ghoul size above the Crypt Flayers. Like a Ghoul Troll or something.

The problem is when an army isn't selling well its hard for GW to justify investing more money into that army and potentially making less profit for that investment; when they can invest in an army (or game) that's already selling really well and has a proven record and will likely recoup even more profit from that same investment.


Of course if GW follows those numbers perfectly, they'll only ever invest in Space Marines and extreme following of that mantra avoids the fact that investment in armies, esp serious investment, often yields increased popularity and thus increased return on investment.

This is before we even consider if there's design staff in-house who work well with a particular faction and their design aesthetics and all. I'm sure when an army is a "pet" of a key staffer it likely gets more attention outside of its financial aspects. Meanwhile armies that might not have a GW local fan or one to make their case, might well get overlooked.

The extremes - eg Sisters of Battle - are clearly not healthy; but it also shows how proper investment and marketing (keeping in mind a lot of GW's marketing is through their own established channels with set staff and thus its all a fixed constant steady cost) can take an army from nothing to high seller.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Bro they can tool 6 new sprues of terrain for a throwaway boxed game a couple of times each year, don't tell me it isn't realistic for FEC to get one plastic unit in 15 years.

Aren't the terrain sprues outsourced? Or is GW making them in house these days?

Some are outsourced, some are produced in Nottingham. Seems to depend on the kit, and I think more recently most of the new terrain releases have been Nottingham-made.

From the video:

-First is new slann
- New saurus or temple guard.
-skink in a new monster ( maybe coldone) but it has the metal feathers from some rumor enginers..

The next 2 i was thinking in malerion aelves, because one of them looks like a dark eldar. But maybe are 2 new characters from khorne and slaanesh in the rumoured box. Or maybe are the leaders for khorne and slaanesh warcry bands

Weird that the feathers with rivets on them are on a creature after all.

Looks to me like this thing has a warmachine on its back, like the sea elf shark.

chaos0xomega wrote:
Some are outsourced, some are produced in Nottingham. Seems to depend on the kit, and I think more recently most of the new terrain releases have been Nottingham-made.

Considering how messy China has been with shipping things and the like it wouldn't surprise me if GW were doing more terrain in-house and outsourcing less of it just to cut down on shipping issues. Considering that they can do terrain inhouse anyway. Things like card stock, books and such almost all have to come from overseas as

I’m going to go with definitely a Skink on something. That tail of the rider is not ridged like the tail of the Saurus Warrior silhouette

Maybe the slinks are going to ride on the spitting dinosaur from Jurassic Park.

The 'metal feathers' might just be a developing symptom of GW having lost the ability to sculpt fur and hair. Now frills have gone too.

 Lord Damocles wrote:
Maybe the slinks are going to ride on the spitting dinosaur from Jurassic Park.

The 'metal feathers' might just be a developing symptom of GW having lost the ability to sculpt fur and hair. Now frills have gone too.

It'll be velociraptors because raptors are cooler, but they'll emulate dilophosaurus with a metal crest imbued with the magic of the Old Ones to allow the raptors to spit plasma bolts. Best of both worlds and totally in tone with AoS.

Its most likely stylized armor though, right?

 nels1031 wrote:
Its most likely stylized armor though, right?

Maybe the beast has the real thing, bone frills or whatever, and the rider has them as a motiv for his headgear, back banner or sth. made out of metal.

They never looked metal tbh and are obvuiously painted like feathers. They even have the little feathery notches in 'em.

JSG wrote:
They never looked metal tbh and are obvuiously painted like feathers. They even have the little feathery notches in 'em.

They have rivets

Dare I dream!? New Saurus Warriors?

I might finally have to start a LIzermen/Seraphon army after wanting to for over a decade.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

JSG wrote:
They never looked metal tbh and are obvuiously painted like feathers. They even have the little feathery notches in 'em.

They have rivets

So do Lumineth plumes. They're not metal either.

Skinks would be riding Horned Ones. But dam do lizzy cav need new sculpts, anything would be better than the things they have now.

At any rate this list only covers armies that don't have 3rd ed books yet, it isn't particularly revealing beyond letting us know which quarter they will be in and that they will all be done by Q3 2023. Not counting SGL here, since they are very much a 3rd-ed book in a 2nd-ed cover.

Great news to se lizardmen and goblins get some love, and possibly something like dark elf corsairs. Together with "slaves to darkness" there is a clear trend they go back to nostalgia rather than try to drop brand new amies no one can relate to.
Also, no stormcasts in the teaser.
Good, in my oppinion.

 Fayric wrote:
Great news to se lizardmen and goblins get some love, and possibly something like dark elf corsairs. Together with "slaves to darkness" there is a clear trend they go back to nostalgia rather than try to drop brand new amies no one can relate to.
Also, no stormcasts in the teaser.
Good, in my oppinion.

The "trend" seems to come more from the fact that most of the new armies already got their books and models. Those left are either old armies (slaves, beasts, serpahon, vampires) or an extension of a portion of an old one (gitz, khone, slaanesh, courts), leaving only kharadrons and bonereapers as the only new ones.
For cities i wait to see how much of an overhaul they get to categorize them.
Ps: since they said that the cities release will be human focused, i expect that final model to be hedonites or vampires rather than privateers.

 Fayric wrote:
Great news to se lizardmen and goblins get some love, and possibly something like dark elf corsairs. Together with "slaves to darkness" there is a clear trend they go back to nostalgia rather than try to drop brand new amies no one can relate to.
Also, no stormcasts in the teaser.
Good, in my oppinion.

This is more of a focus on getting rid of old resin pieces and bringing the models in line with how they're meant to look now. Saurus for example. The models right now really look little like how they're presented in the seraphon tome. And the new gitz boss is obviously to get rid of the old resin skarsnik.

 Overread wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
Some are outsourced, some are produced in Nottingham. Seems to depend on the kit, and I think more recently most of the new terrain releases have been Nottingham-made.

Considering how messy China has been with shipping things and the like it wouldn't surprise me if GW were doing more terrain in-house and outsourcing less of it just to cut down on shipping issues. Considering that they can do terrain inhouse anyway. Things like card stock, books and such almost all have to come from overseas as

I believe the in-sourcing of terrain was always part of the plan. The outsourcing of terrain to china in the first place was mostly down to issues of manufacturing capacity/bandwidth (same with Endless Spells and select other plastics) - simply put GW couldn't maintain its release schedule and product plan without going out to other suppliers to supplement their pipeline with additional capacity. With the completion of their warehouse and factory expansion, etc. (which I believe completed earlier this year IIRC), I would assume that its no longer necessary to outsource those products and they can bring them back in-house.

Danny76 wrote:
I was gonna say watching the video I thought immediately it was just new Saurus Cav

Tsagualsa wrote:

Danny76 wrote:
I was gonna say watching the video I thought immediately it was just new Saurus Cav

Saurus Cavalry may easily get a boost in size and oomph and fit a slot more like 'superheavy' cavalry, like the drakoth-riding stormcast, bloodcrusher and so on. That would also open up another slot for skinks on more slender, smaller lizards as light cavalry.

Is not Saurus Cav. Rider has to be a skink, since is standing on top of the dinosaur.