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I disagree, I find AoS' focus on shorter range & melee is a big part of its appeal. It also makes the deployment and positioning of shooters much more relevant and tactical, with AoS' very permissive line of sight.

Yeah but it's a cannon. Let it be a cannon.

With starting distances 18-22" and objectives center 24 plenty.

Then there's subfaction that allows moving without losing fortified bonus for added fun

Definitely a fan of shorter ranges. Deployment zones shooting deployment zones is definitely the part of 40k I hate.

Blacktalon cast are getting models.

.... WHERE IS MALINETH MODEL GW WHERE?!



Also those Black Talon models look ace!

They give me a Warcry vibe and the sculpted bases look like Underworlds but as far as I can see they are just a normal AoS unit?

Very nice set, will buy.

They would fit Warcy alright where SCE tend to be 5 or 6 minis - they might have rules for both AoS and Warcry? but it would be disappointing if another SCE warband takes the other Order warband slot.

Those are some of the nicest stormcast models imo. Shame the warcry and underworld models aren’t up to this standard


But did we need a second Neave model? Her current model still looks good

 GaroRobe wrote:
Those are some of the nicest stormcast models imo. Shame the warcry and underworld models aren’t up to this standard


But did we need a second Neave model? Her current model still looks good

They seem to be wanting to push out Thunderstrike replacements for the Vanguard ASAP.

I should probably watch the show to know who these guys are.

Kind of a random thing to drop. The old dude looks nice. I wouldn't mind having him in my collection.

 Matrindur wrote:
They give me a Warcry vibe and the sculpted bases look like Underworlds but as far as I can see they are just a normal AoS unit?

In this case I'd say the sculpted bases are just a byproduct of being named characters from a show or short stories, even if it's usually a sign of being made for Underworlds. Gaunt's Ghosts also got their own tactical forest to stand on.

Elven wizard is my favourite from that set.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Yeah but it's a cannon. Let it be a cannon.

On the one hand, I totally get this position and absolutely respect it. On ther other, sometimes game mechanics need to come before narrative to make for functional gameplay.


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 Overread wrote:
.... WHERE IS MALINETH MODEL GW WHERE?!



Also those Black Talon models look ace!

Spoiler for spoilers;

The Blacktalon set is pretty awesome.

First iteration of Neave/Knight Zephyros was one of my favorite OG Stormcast sculpts and this is a good upgrade.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Yeah but it's a cannon. Let it be a cannon.

On the one hand, I totally get this position and absolutely respect it. On ther other, sometimes game mechanics need to come before narrative to make for functional gameplay.


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 Overread wrote:
.... WHERE IS MALINETH MODEL GW WHERE?!



Also those Black Talon models look ace!

Spoiler for spoilers;

Spoiler:

As far as we know she died at the end of the Soulslayer novel.

I’m more surprised by the lack of Callis and Toll. They’ve had a lot of stories and got an animation too. Plus witch hunters are cool even if we have four or five now.

I almost wonder if that might be something that got tangled up with the mess of Cursed City because they'd be ideal additional heroes to add to that game .

The old Naeve Blacktalon sculpt had more momentum to it and I really liked that. The rest of them are winners though.

I am saddened by Cities losing the ability to take SCE as anything other than bog standard allies.

 Ahtman wrote:
I am saddened by Cities losing the ability to take SCE as anything other than bog standard allies.

In my locale we're all pretty sure it was done for gameplay reasons; several instances of 'Cities' armies with more SCE than mortals we're running around.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Blacktalon cast are getting models.

Lovely. Have to say I do like Neave's original model more, but still a gorgeous set. Hopefully it's not a limited edition or splash release or some stupidity like that.

Yep, original Neave model was much better IMHO, it's one of the only Stormcast models that I liked.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 Ahtman wrote:
I am saddened by Cities losing the ability to take SCE as anything other than bog standard allies.

In my locale we're all pretty sure it was done for gameplay reasons; several instances of 'Cities' armies with more SCE than mortals we're running around.

That and it likely makes balancing a lot easier too when you can't take a huge chunk of another force. It's always one big reason I hate when companies suddenly decide that you can mash armies together without any (or very limited) boundaries. Because unless all armies are essentially the same; it utterly breaks most balance attempts.

Lore wise it also fits; some CoS have huge regiments of Stormcast march with them; others might get one or two or none or might only have them march with them and once they establish a new settlement the Stormcast are off and the people have to defend themselves.

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
Yep, original Neave model was much better IMHO, it's one of the only Stormcast models that I liked.

Hm, I'd have assumed the original would remain in print since it was also the Knight-Zephyros sculpt but I see now it is sold out online. A poor omen.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
Yep, original Neave model was much better IMHO, it's one of the only Stormcast models that I liked.

Hm, I'd have assumed the original would remain in print since it was also the Knight-Zephyros sculpt but I see now it is sold out online. A poor omen.

As an experienced Looter?

For those wanting the original, now is the time to scour your FLGS shelves.

Rumours from TGA which Whitefang has confirmed, source seems to be from the release schedule for August and September

https://www.tga.community/forums/topic/22826-the-rumour-thread/?page=4347

- Cities of Sigmar army set will be available to pre-order on the 26th of August and the release date is 2nd of September
- Vanguard Seraphon same date as CoS
- Dawnbringers 2 - Reign of Brute - 5 Orruk Kits including Big Pig, a character called Zoggrok Anvilsmasha, likely all Ironjawz possibly new Ardboyz
- New Troggoth
- The Blacktalons are in that release window.

EDITED to correct preorder date

5 new IJ kits means CoS will have to wait.

Just a note that the poster meant 26th(a Saturday).

It all sounds exciting but they did say that Sunday is KT preorders as a way to verify.

That would give ironjawz a nice needed boost if they get five new kits. Cities having to wait wouldn't be surprising if that is the release date for the launch box. As it's usually about a month after the full release I believe.

 DaveC wrote:
Big Pig

Heh, with the drag of the 10th ed 40k launch I completely forgot about that thing. Will be cool to finally see it released.

The image was making the rounds on a Facebook group for FEC. No idea if this is anything new or not.