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I think some of the recent Eavy Metal paint jobs got a lot better and more characterful. Until recently they were quite clean but also kind of technocratically cold.

And yes those Fyreslayers look awesome, although their standard range imho is not good.

Just noticed a couple of those Fyreslayers appears to be dwarfettes (i.e. female).

 Shadow Walker wrote:
I like only maybe 3 of the dwarves but baby droth is a lovely pet.

The leader, the guy with the whips, and the guy with the bone pickaxes?

chaos0xomega wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:
I like only maybe 3 of the dwarves but baby droth is a lovely pet.

The leader, the guy with the whips, and the guy with the bone pickaxes?

Two that are with baby droth and the one on the left from the whip guy.

Neat! I keep hoping they will unify all the various Dwarf armies, but this is pretty nifty as a unit.

Stats https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/lQR8doCdKS14oWPO.pdf

Love the female duardin. Love the majority of the warband actually , the guy with the whip just looks too busy.

I hope this is a preview of a range refresh for the FS, but I don’t think they ever moved the needle enough for GW to invest in such a project.

Kind of a vicious cycle - nobody buys them because the range is kind of boring, GW doesn't invest into them because nobody buys them.

 Platuan4th wrote:


Or you can just download the app and have the current ones for free.

Well butter my barnacles, I thought the App was only free with a Warhammer+ subscription.

Cheers, I'll have a go with that later.

New Trogg-King looks very strong, and aggressively priced points-wise. I wonder if this will be what it takes to see more Gloomspite lists at top tables?

Those look good, would probably good for Mordheim as well.

But yea, still not a fan of basically the rest of the AoS dwarfs, so meh there.

SamusDrake wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:


Or you can just download the app and have the current ones for free.

Well butter my barnacles, I thought the App was only free with a Warhammer+ subscription.

Cheers, I'll have a go with that later.

All warscrolls free. Faction rules you need battletome code. Think army builder was supposed to be thb behind w+ part but not sure did that ever happen. But doubt army builder is needed for that campaign.

tneva82 wrote:


All warscrolls free. Faction rules you need battletome code. Think army builder was supposed to be thb behind w+ part but not sure did that ever happen. But doubt army builder is needed for that campaign.

Ah. Okay, cheers for that.

I still maintain that Fyreslayers need to be subfaction wrapped into another Dwarf book.

No. They work perfectly fine with their own niche.

I hope they don't. I'd like both Kharadron and Fyreslayers to get further expanded so as to justify their continued independent existence.

Likewise, I'd like to see Orruks split back into separate books. Ironjawz and Kruleboyz are clearly different armies. Bonesplitterz too though ive heard some suggest they were going to get squatted or something, so I dont know what to say about them. I don't really think there was ever substantial justification for lumping them together in the first place.

The warband is admittedly pretty great. Good to see some female Dwarfs. A couple of these models can be utilized pretty easily as slayers in the Old World as well - which a lot of people who like variety in their models will appreciate.

Hope fyreslayers get an iron jaws style range refresh. They could use some more vehicles/artillery and more magma constructs+dragons

James12345 wrote:
Hope fyreslayers get an iron jaws style range refresh. They could use some more vehicles/artillery and more magma constructs+dragons

Honestly, after seeing how good the new Warcry warband is, I think they should bin the whole range and start again.

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:

James12345 wrote:
Hope fyreslayers get an iron jaws style range refresh. They could use some more vehicles/artillery and more magma constructs+dragons

Honestly, after seeing how good the new Warcry warband is, I think they should bin the whole range and start again.

GW definitely should do that. That said, even if Fyrslyrs got lucky for once, Sigmarines are getting that treatment and you can still buy the old, chubby ones. New models along the lines of the Warcry unit would almost certainly be an addition rather than a replacement.

James12345 wrote:
Hope fyreslayers get an iron jaws style range refresh. They could use some more vehicles/artillery and more magma constructs+dragons

That's why I hope they combine all the Dwarf factions. We could finally see more breadth to those armies.

 Scottywan82 wrote:

James12345 wrote:
Hope fyreslayers get an iron jaws style range refresh. They could use some more vehicles/artillery and more magma constructs+dragons

That's why I hope they combine all the Dwarf factions. We could finally see more breadth to those armies.

Let's ask Cities of Sigmar how that worked out.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Scottywan82 wrote:

James12345 wrote:
Hope fyreslayers get an iron jaws style range refresh. They could use some more vehicles/artillery and more magma constructs+dragons

That's why I hope they combine all the Dwarf factions. We could finally see more breadth to those armies.

Let's ask Cities of Sigmar how that worked out.

How did it work out for them? Last I checked, the suggestion was that humans with new AoS models are fine and elves and dwarfs with old Warhammer Fantasy models feel tacked on. Is that still the case or does the book have more significant issues?

I think that's correct. However as a whole the CoS book feels weird because the oldhammer elves and dwarfs do not really fit in there anymore.
My hope is that they still make CoS a combined faction with the following:
- dwarfs as elite infantry and artillery
- elves as light cavalery and scouts

 Geifer wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Scottywan82 wrote:

James12345 wrote:
Hope fyreslayers get an iron jaws style range refresh. They could use some more vehicles/artillery and more magma constructs+dragons

That's why I hope they combine all the Dwarf factions. We could finally see more breadth to those armies.

Let's ask Cities of Sigmar how that worked out.

How did it work out for them? Last I checked, the suggestion was that humans with new AoS models are fine and elves and dwarfs with old Warhammer Fantasy models feel tacked on. Is that still the case or does the book have more significant issues?

I'm referring to the actual creation of Cities of Sigmar as a faction, which was supposedly to add more breadth to the Mortal Realms. Instead, it gutted huge swathes of the constituent factions and just basically made stereotypes that GW themselves threw away.

The new book is a huge step forward from where it was, but the fact that they kept all the stupid Dark Elf stuff in is mindboggling.


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 Astmeister wrote:
I think that's correct. However as a whole the CoS book feels weird because the oldhammer elves and dwarfs do not really fit in there anymore.

The Elves you're definitely right on about. It's all Dark Elf stuff there now, and it feels like post-Morathi Khaine they should have been lasered out.

My hope is that they still make CoS a combined faction with the following:
- dwarfs as elite infantry and artillery

...have you read the new book? That's what they're doing.

- elves as light cavalry and scouts

What scouts would those be? The only thing scout-y left is Dark Riders and Shadowblades.

Ironjawz supplement

https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/r8DTAWmkrsW2fiRW.pdf.

Ardboyz can have choppas or stikkas which makes it easier to run the older ones and the new kit has choppas as an option as well.

A Tuskboss
2 x Hakkin Krew
6 x Gougers
Is exactly 2000 pts. (9 Big Pigs)

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Geifer wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Scottywan82 wrote:

James12345 wrote:
Hope fyreslayers get an iron jaws style range refresh. They could use some more vehicles/artillery and more magma constructs+dragons

That's why I hope they combine all the Dwarf factions. We could finally see more breadth to those armies.

Let's ask Cities of Sigmar how that worked out.

How did it work out for them? Last I checked, the suggestion was that humans with new AoS models are fine and elves and dwarfs with old Warhammer Fantasy models feel tacked on. Is that still the case or does the book have more significant issues?

I'm referring to the actual creation of Cities of Sigmar as a faction, which was supposedly to add more breadth to the Mortal Realms. Instead, it gutted huge swathes of the constituent factions and just basically made stereotypes that GW themselves threw away.

The new book is a huge step forward from where it was, but the fact that they kept all the stupid Dark Elf stuff in is mindboggling.


Automatically Appended Next Post:

 Astmeister wrote:
I think that's correct. However as a whole the CoS book feels weird because the oldhammer elves and dwarfs do not really fit in there anymore.

The Elves you're definitely right on about. It's all Dark Elf stuff there now, and it feels like post-Morathi Khaine they should have been lasered out.

My hope is that they still make CoS a combined faction with the following:
- dwarfs as elite infantry and artillery

...have you read the new book? That's what they're doing.

- elves as light cavalry and scouts

What scouts would those be? The only thing scout-y left is Dark Riders and Shadowblades.

I read the new book. My idea was that they rather do new elves and dwarfs miniatures which fits the aesthetic of the CoS. The old world leftovers do not fit at all imho.

 DaveC wrote:
Ironjawz supplement

https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/r8DTAWmkrsW2fiRW.pdf.

Ardboyz can have choppas or stikkas which makes it easier to run the older ones and the new kit has choppas as an option as well.

A Tuskboss
2 x Hakkin Krew
6 x Gougers
Is exactly 2000 pts. (9 Big Pigs)

Big Pig is conditional battleline. Oh dear..bacon tidal wave incoming.

I clicked on the supplement thinking its just a few warscrolls and some points…

Currently on page 13 of 28 and its been filled with new art and lore.

Pretty solid move on GW’s part!

Also: maybe I wasn’t paying attention during the reveals but I was surprised Ard Boyz had the option of a choppa instead of a stikka(spear thing) in their new kit.

Also Also: Missed an opportunity to make the 2 Boyz that come on the Tuskboss on Maw-Grunta a unit entry in their own right if someone builds a kit without them. Maybe a hero or something, akin to what you get in building a Magmadroth a certain way (3 Heroes in one box). They are just a bit off balance in pose, but I’d use them as distinctive unit champions at the least.

Pretty sure they didn't mention that the new kit had both weapon options, I only remember them previewing the stikkaz, I've been wondering about it for a while and spent some time the other day going through everything mentioned and there were only vague references to other weapon options existing in a very indirect roundabout way that had me convinced that the kit would be stikkaz only.

 nels1031 wrote:

Also Also: Missed an opportunity to make the 2 Boyz that come on the Tuskboss on Maw-Grunta a unit entry in their own right if someone builds a kit without them. Maybe a hero or something, akin to what you get in building a Magmadroth a certain way (3 Heroes in one box). They are just a bit off balance in pose, but I’d use them as distinctive unit champions at the least.

If you have the Limited Edition Brute Boss, 2 Gougers gives you enough Brutes for a min unit.