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 Astmeister wrote:
The Warscrolls are still in the app for all factions!

Good to know. But not exactly catering to people like me who like to view things on a nice, large screen. Kids these days with their damn mobile devices...

You could mirror it to your tv if you want or use a tablet.

 Astmeister wrote:
You could mirror it to your tv if you want or use a tablet.

I could also just not bother. It's baffling that GW supports some platforms but not others with just this one thing. I can use their store on PC. I can watch their videos on PC. I can read Warhammer Vault content on PC. I can read their news page on PC. I can get my posts on their social media platforms deleted on PC. There's even a list builder on Warhammer Community that I can use on PC. But access to the free part of their rules is restricted to other devices, particularly when it didn't used to be. I don't much feel like working around GW's stupidity.

I also find this weird. Speaking of which: Has anyone also figured out that the GW paint app does not include tutorials for Contrast paints anymore? They only show the "classic way" of painting in the app and months ago the "contrast way" was still available.

 Astmeister wrote:
I also find this weird. Speaking of which: Has anyone also figured out that the GW paint app does not include tutorials for Contrast paints anymore? They only show the "classic way" of painting in the app and months ago the "contrast way" was still available.

They actually do show some contrast methods, they are just not separated anymore. I was looking at oranges the other day and one if them used contrast....Embers...it uses Magmadroth Flame

Oh you are right. That is so much worse than before, where you could choose almost for each color between Contrast and Classical.

Screaming Bell now moves on its own(much asked for by Skaven players for sometime) and a ton of points changes to SBGL. OBR hit with some rules changes as well. Will be interesting to see how the latter 2 are affected, as they have been top performers.

I have to say that the Screaming Bell moving on its own feels very weird. It's like the one thing they were consistent about for its many iterations: You need little guys to push.

So the ardboyz were inspired by the castelite formations to adopt shield and spear formations? I like that the lore and units expand alongside the setting, but the Lumineth and other armies have used spears and shields since forever, I don’t know why the cities of sigmar formation would be so inspiring to orruks

Feels like the biggest nerf was actually to Hedonites, despite SBGL and OBR being way more problematic.

All of my HoS lists went up 60-90pts, but most awkwardly the points costs mean every permutation of list leaves me 10pts over, or as much as 70pts under, 2000pts. Hitting every single good unit with even a modest increase has definitely created some weirdness, where I am now forced to take Endless Spells I don't want, or ally in one of the not useful Warcry warbands.

Big oof, for me. Hedonites was doing a hair too good, but it is also a VERY high skill army that doesn't just hand a bad player a netlist and see them succeed. As a result I think they just got over-corrected super hard.

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
Feels like the biggest nerf was actually to Hedonites, despite SBGL and OBR being way more problematic.

All of my HoS lists went up 60-90pts, but most awkwardly the points costs mean every permutation of list leaves me 10pts over, or as much as 70pts under, 2000pts. Hitting every single good unit with even a modest increase has definitely created some weirdness, where I am now forced to take Endless Spells I don't want, or ally in one of the not useful Warcry warbands.

Big oof, for me. Hedonites was doing a hair too good, but it is also a VERY high skill army that doesn't just hand a bad player a netlist and see them succeed. As a result I think they just got over-corrected super hard.

Generally exactly 2000 isn't even all that good thing to be.

Hell KO's love going for 1930 pts or so.

 Astmeister wrote:
The Warscrolls are still in the app for all factions!

Imho GW can not rip the peoples money out of their pockets so easily via AoS, because unlike 40k the player base is much smaller.
So they do not want to drive off too many people. For 40k GW can basically get through with anything they want.

Not only is the AoS community smaller, but theres also a segment of it which are effectively abuse survivors (i.e. those who stuck with AoS after WHFB End Times) and will not react well to some of the more unfriendly business practices that GW has engaged in with regards to 40k. Its just as much about fostering goodwill as it is not driving customers away.

Even in 40K I think GW has slowly started to realise that whilst expansion books are a nice concept; their customer base was burning out on them. Likely reinforced by the pandemic meaning that last edition was a cluster of messy stuff where most people were buying books they couldn't even game with for very long.

On the one hand lots of regular books makes money for GW; on the other hand lots of regular books that are mandated purchasing that makes the game more expensive and more complicated starts to turn people away

A broken clock is right twice a day I guess.

 Arbitrator wrote:
A broken clock is right twice a day I guess.

Depends how much you break it

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/09/15/dawnbringer-chronicles-viii-wreck-and-ruin/

Ragerz/Wrekkaz come with 3 of each weapon type so all 3 Ragerz could have gore-hacka blades or Brute crushas. Not too many options in the kits Ardboyz appear to have 14 heads all masked.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-NZ/orruk-warclans-brute-ragerz-2023

It is a minute past midday and Big Pig is already sold out... Jesus...

It was cheaper than I expected, so ordered a couple.

Here is my unboxing & review for the Maw-grunta, Ardboys, and Weirdbrute Wrekkaz / Brute Ragerz. Got high-res sprue pics and a rundown of all assembly options as usual: https://taleofpainters.com/2023/09/review-ironjawz-tuskboss-on-maw-grunta-ardboyz-weirdbrute-wrekkaz-brute-ragerz/

Sadly, the options for the Maw-grunta are a bit limited - there are the three builds but that's pretty much it, no additional bitz or stuff (except for an optional nose ring for the Grunta).

Would other Ironjaw heads perhaps be compatible with the Maw-Grunter Orcs?

 DaveC wrote:
Ragerz/Wrekkaz come with 3 of each weapon type so all 3 Ragerz could have gore-hacka blades or Brute crushas. Not too many options in the kits Ardboyz appear to have 14 heads all masked.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-NZ/orruk-warclans-brute-ragerz-2023

These are cool but man I hate the pricing on "large infantry", 3 Ragerz is just a few euros less than 10 Ard Boyz.

 stahly wrote:
Here is my unboxing & review for the Maw-grunta, Ardboys, and Weirdbrute Wrekkaz / Brute Ragerz. Got high-res sprue pics and a rundown of all assembly options as usual: https://taleofpainters.com/2023/09/review-ironjawz-tuskboss-on-maw-grunta-ardboyz-weirdbrute-wrekkaz-brute-ragerz/

Sadly, the options for the Maw-grunta are a bit limited - there are the three builds but that's pretty much it, no additional bitz or stuff (except for an optional nose ring for the Grunta).

Yeah it’s a shame there’s only one head for the Maw-Grunta, especially when you can have a whole army of them.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
It is a minute past midday and Big Pig is already sold out... Jesus...

Still available on the German webstore 75 minutes after it went up. Maybe it's not bacon season around here. Maybe GW figured that if they aren't selling much at Australian prices, they can cut stock allocation for Australia.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
These are cool but man I hate the pricing on "large infantry", 3 Ragerz is just a few euros less than 10 Ard Boyz.

That was confusing to read until I remembered it's a three man box rather than five men. Yeah. They are the standard price for a three man box, but it sure is a bit much.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 stahly wrote:
Here is my unboxing & review for the Maw-grunta, Ardboys, and Weirdbrute Wrekkaz / Brute Ragerz. Got high-res sprue pics and a rundown of all assembly options as usual: https://taleofpainters.com/2023/09/review-ironjawz-tuskboss-on-maw-grunta-ardboyz-weirdbrute-wrekkaz-brute-ragerz/

Sadly, the options for the Maw-grunta are a bit limited - there are the three builds but that's pretty much it, no additional bitz or stuff (except for an optional nose ring for the Grunta).

Yeah it’s a shame there’s only one head for the Maw-Grunta, especially when you can have a whole army of them.

I'm sure we'll get the customary "just 3d print a different one" comments in the Ironjawz groups

Anyone know how big the Maw-Grunta is, compared to the Ork Kill Rig/Hunta Rig?

 Geifer wrote:
Still available on the German webstore 75 minutes after it went up.

Yeah I wasn't talking about the GW webstore as, really, who pays full retail price for GW products?

 stahly wrote:
Here is my unboxing & review for the Maw-grunta, Ardboys, and Weirdbrute Wrekkaz / Brute Ragerz. Got high-res sprue pics and a rundown of all assembly options as usual: https://taleofpainters.com/2023/09/review-ironjawz-tuskboss-on-maw-grunta-ardboyz-weirdbrute-wrekkaz-brute-ragerz/

Sadly, the options for the Maw-grunta are a bit limited - there are the three builds but that's pretty much it, no additional bitz or stuff (except for an optional nose ring for the Grunta).

Any chance you could line up some Brutes and new Ardboyz for a size comparison?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Would other Ironjaw heads perhaps be compatible with the Maw-Grunter Orcs?

Yeah I think so, the new Ardboys heads should fit the crew and Brute heads fit the Gouger rider (the Tuskboss head is framed by his bone helmet), some minor gap filling might be needed though.

Already have 30 Black Orcs but the new kits are quite awesome.