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Wow. The old Skaven Clanrats were pretty great models at their time, but the new ones make them feel dated. Great poses, lots of character.

Also, it might just the pose in the comparison photo. But the news look to be a wee bit smaller.

Ohh now those are rats of unusual size.

New rats are good but I wonder if there will be options to not have models with shield in right hand, I hate it.

They look as if they'll at least rank up somewhat decently on squares, too.

Their wooden bastions are as likely to fall apart as stop an attack from a Stormcast Eternal

4+ save on clanrats confirmed

these are simply just incredible


this one is my favorite. the diseased, rotting skin looks so good, especially because it doesn't feel like it overlaps with Nurgle (as it otherwise might have)

but also, these don't feel overcomplicated. there's a lot of detail, but i imagine that once you start batch painting these guys, it's going to go quickly

 stahly wrote:
Wow. The old Skaven Clanrats were pretty great models at their time, but the new ones make them feel dated. Great poses, lots of character.

I thought I was pretty happy with the old ones until I saw the new ones. Really like these and I really liked the old ones anyway.

I feel those Clan Rats also have a lot of Warhammer Old World potential!

 Shadow Walker wrote:
New rats are good but I wonder if there will be options to not have models with shield in right hand, I hate it.

Yeah, I really want to know what options they have. Like are the two that are double-handing their weapons different from the others? Do they have to have shields? Any options to swap heads or arms around? I assume not with the starter set, but the I am more wondering about the eventual solo release.

 Scottywan82 wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:
New rats are good but I wonder if there will be options to not have models with shield in right hand, I hate it.

Yeah, I really want to know what options they have. Like are the two that are double-handing their weapons different from the others? Do they have to have shields? Any options to swap heads or arms around? I assume not with the starter set, but the I am more wondering about the eventual solo release.

If they are like Liberators than it does not matter if you give them shields or not, same profile.

It depends on if the starter models end up being the ones that get a wider release

 GaroRobe wrote:
It depends on if the starter models end up being the ones that get a wider release

Termagants were starter ones with an upgrade sprue so it may be similar here. Or simply rats will have no options that matter in game, and what you have in starter is what you will get later in a unit box.

Love em.

So, it looks like the Stormcasts are going to be playing Wak-a-Rat for 4th edition.

I like these clanrat sculpts a lot. Hope to see going through the same good level of transition. And rat ogres.. that should be too hard though, as they were too dated, especially compared to other kits of the same era.

The warp weapon guy is too cartoony. Fingers crossed, that rogres don’t go in the same direction.

Did this rat eat through his leg or something?

It's wrapped around the leg with it's shoulder in front of the leg.

 Shadow Walker wrote:
New rats are good but I wonder if there will be options to not have models with shield in right hand, I hate it.

from those pics at least the core box models have their shields fixed to the body, so no swapping things around with those

Pretty spot-on to the 7th sculpts, just re-adjusted to modern proportions and scale. Nothing that particularly marks these out as AOS. I can appreciate that, but on the other hand, it feels “safe”. That said, that makes me wonder if they do intend these to do double duty once TOW’s initial release is settled.

They've made it pretty damn explicit at this point that they want no crossover between systems.

 Malika2 wrote:
I feel those Clan Rats also have a lot of Warhammer Old World potential!

*hiss*

These are age of sigmar models now, keep your grubby square-base loving paws to yourself.


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 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
They've made it pretty damn explicit at this point that they want no crossover between systems.

Denial is a hell of a drug.

I'm eager to see the other sculpts, but those clanrats will absolutely feature in my old world army.

chaos0xomega wrote:

 Malika2 wrote:
I feel those Clan Rats also have a lot of Warhammer Old World potential!

*hiss*

These are age of sigmar models now, keep your grubby square-base loving paws to yourself.


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 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
They've made it pretty damn explicit at this point that they want no crossover between systems.

Denial is a hell of a drug.

Whatever you say man.

 Scottywan82 wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:
New rats are good but I wonder if there will be options to not have models with shield in right hand, I hate it.

Yeah, I really want to know what options they have. Like are the two that are double-handing their weapons different from the others? Do they have to have shields? Any options to swap heads or arms around? I assume not with the starter set, but the I am more wondering about the eventual solo release.

Rulewise odds are zero difference whatsoever how you build them.

Tow players more relevant for those

 Shadow Walker wrote:
If they are like Liberators than it does not matter if you give them shields or not, same profile.

I am sure you're right. I meant more for making each unit look unique. Even if it does nothing in-game, options are always a positive in my book.

chaos0xomega wrote:

 Malika2 wrote:
I feel those Clan Rats also have a lot of Warhammer Old World potential!

*hiss*

These are age of sigmar models now, keep your grubby square-base loving paws to yourself.


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 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
They've made it pretty damn explicit at this point that they want no crossover between systems.

Denial is a hell of a drug.

Gw denied squares ever coming back as well.

And doesn't matter what gw says. Models work in tow just fine and we have rules.

Until you look at the prices. Have fun building your skaven army spending $60 for a unit of 10, you'll only need about 10 boxes to cover your core needs for the typical army.

chaos0xomega wrote:
Until you look at the prices. Have fun building your skaven army spending $60 for a unit of 10, you'll only need about 10 boxes to cover your core needs for the typical army.

There will be plenty of sprues around for cheaper than that when the new starter hits the shelves. Gotta be fast

 BertBert wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
Until you look at the prices. Have fun building your skaven army spending $60 for a unit of 10, you'll only need about 10 boxes to cover your core needs for the typical army.

There will be plenty of sprues around for cheaper than that when the new starter hits the shelves. Gotta be fast

I'm not so sure. They massively overproduced last time on Dominion. One of two things will happen this time:

1. They will scale back production numbers and dramatically underprivileged, failing to account for the parasitic demand caused by TOW. There will be a mass shortage of AoS4 launch boxes, vicious wailing will ensue.

2. They will not scale back production numbers and will accurately account for TOW demand effects, but the poorly performing (according to AoS haters/TOW fans) Stormcast range will have no demand behind it, leading to a skaven shortage and the price of clanrat sprues inflating to the point it offers minimal savings.

2 is honestly more likely once you factor in the release of the 3 "levels" of starter sets. I expect there will be a lot of excess stormcast sets on the market that skaven fans won't even be able to pay people to take (which will limit the value savings to be had to skaven players).