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B&C rumor round up now includes some pics of GW marketing posters for new C: SM.

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.php?showtopic=142206

EDIT: Pics of the posters attached

I read most of rumors. I must now go change the shorts.

Good grief.

How can they do Vanguard assault squads. Assaulting after deep strike, wtf?

Machine Spirit – now allows all weapons to be fired if moving 6” or less.

Gotta love how they went from updated FAQ to a brand new rule for the Codex.

Those posters were linked in this thread, though surrounded by a whole lot of Japanese. Same rumors discussed there.

I thought marines were powerful enough. Scout bikes dropping mines, air bursts, ap3 flamers, assaulting after deep strike.... bahhh

The models are actually quite pretty.

I like the Vanguards, Scout Bikes, and the Heroes.

~sA

The cycle of

"New Best Army"

continues at it always has and always will.

My that new ork codex sure sold a few orks!

Now to sell some marines hey lads!

Landraiders aren't selling well! heck, change the rules!

Its sure fun.

Hope I live to see twentieth edition!

Actually its a fairly fun system because it gives the old players reasons to ever renew their armies, and new players get a better deal "than ever" (as they always say!). Their product list is so long they have to get people buying up stuff that has been gathering dust.

I needed reasons to go for marines again! Hurrah!

Can't wait to fight against the new marines.

Shrike + Vanguard = DS, Fleet, & Assault goodness

the points cost on the vanguard should be 30-35 points a model + 15 points for every plasma pistol and power weapon and 20 points for the relic sword
so the squad in the box is 230-250 points for 5 assualt guys. I guess we will have to wait for the uk games day for points.

I have to say I am actually looking forward to seeing this codex come out. In my part of the world, I rarely see Space Marine armies, and they just don't seem to be as powerful as the rest of the lot. When I've faced a Marine army, it's a relief as I actually feel they pose less of a threat than say, Eldar, Orks, or Nids.

From a purely fluff point, Space Marines *should* be rock hard and have all the toys.

I think we'll see significant upgrades in all new 5th ed. codexes. Afterall, the game changed very significantly, and new books are in order that make the armies that have been lackluster in line with the star players like Nids, new Orks, and Eldar.

I'd rather see each new book brought up a notch into the competitive realm, than keep the current status quo and pray that some day, the current dominating codices will get rewritten.

P.S. I'm not a marine player.

Indeed - lots of strong tactics, but lets wait for the point costs!! This is fith edition and things have changed (I wonder how many who yell doom actually have played fith?), I don't care what a single elite unit does if it costs 400+pts and can at best swat one unit a turn after which it's pay back...

What I am really happy about is the fluffiness of the core units system, the new models and art and finally several viable ways to play marines.

nathonicus wrote:I have to say I am actually looking forward to seeing this codex come out. In my part of the world, I rarely see Space Marine armies, and they just don't seem to be as powerful as the rest of the lot. When I've faced a Marine army, it's a relief as I actually feel they pose less of a threat than say, Eldar, Orks, or Nids.

From a purely fluff point, Space Marines *should* be rock hard and have all the toys.

I think we'll see significant upgrades in all new 5th ed. codexes. Afterall, the game changed very significantly, and new books are in order that make the armies that have been lackluster in line with the star players like Nids, new Orks, and Eldar.

I'd rather see each new book brought up a notch into the competitive realm, than keep the current status quo and pray that some day, the current dominating codices will get rewritten.

P.S. I'm not a marine player.

Amen good sir!!! I totally agree.

Just curious - Drop pods - how the hell do you fit 12 in, when it has five doors and two seats behind each??? What am I missing?

migsula wrote:Just curious - Drop pods - how the hell do you fit 12 in, when it has five doors and two seats behind each??? What am I missing?

There are two handholds on the outside for a couple guys to ride on the hull. Yippee-ki-yay!

Roof rack

there's a crow's nest area for the terminator armored IC to join in.. he is stuck in like R2D2 in an X or Y wing..

I bet the Vanguard Veterans are gonna fall over like Chaos Raptors...

So is the new Land Raider kit only the Crusader and Redeemer? Doesn't sound like it has the lascannons in the kit with it.

Old Man Ultramarine wrote:How can they do Vanguard assault squads. Assaulting after deep strike, wtf?

With everything in the Space Marine range already out (except for a Drop Pod), the Dev team were faced with a situation which was inevitable, but no less annoying - everything's out. There's nothing new to buy except the Drop Pod. So they made Scout Bikers into plastic and recut the Land Speeder, but that's still not enough. Marines had reached the end of their release cycle - everything is out, mostly in plastic. This is why this Codex is filled to the brim with new units that have never existed before. GW's only path is to invent a bunch of new stuff and give them killer rules so that newbies and vets a like just have to have them.

BYE

To me, there is one distressing fact of this whole thread.

From the first image:

"October 2008 is Space Marines month."


WTF? The Imperium invaded Orktober!
Is NOTHING sacred?


Eric

I'm glad assault Terminators finally get a boost. I did notice only the Vet. Sergent gets a relic blade. I don't think it'll be as bad as people think. I look forward to the new book. -K

stil need to see the points to now isits the best army out if it is nice for mee

erm.. does someone know ~price of this drop pods?

You do realise in order for those guys to assault after Deep Striking they have to land between 1" and 6" away. That's a small margin of error that could easily go wrong and have them landing on the unit they're aiming for and dieing. You'd either want to pair them with Scout Bikers for the Homing Beacon, or Shrike for the Fleet.

Heck, most all of the really cool stuff is either Elites or HQ, meaning you're going to have to pick and choose, which I think is a good thing.

The rule that sounds like it's going to really mess over my marines is the no specials unless you run a full 10 man tac squad. I go from my 2 specials in a 6 man Razorback to only a single special in every other 5 man unit.

MagickalMemories wrote:To me, there is one distressing fact of this whole thread.

From the first image:

"October 2008 is Space Marines month."


WTF? The Imperium invaded Orktober!
Is NOTHING sacred?

Amen man. That's the very first thing I saw, and it's the most disturbing of all the new SM tidbits!

That aside, I'm sorely tempted to pick up a Thunderfire Cannon for it's undeniable conversion power...

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Old Man Ultramarine wrote:How can they do Vanguard assault squads. Assaulting after deep strike, wtf?

With everything in the Space Marine range already out (except for a Drop Pod), the Dev team were faced with a situation which was inevitable, but no less annoying - everything's out. There's nothing new to buy except the Drop Pod. So they made Scout Bikers into plastic and recut the Land Speeder, but that's still not enough. Marines had reached the end of their release cycle - everything is out, mostly in plastic. This is why this Codex is filled to the brim with new units that have never existed before. GW's only path is to invent a bunch of new stuff and give them killer rules so that newbies and vets a like just have to have them.

BYE

What they should have done with chaos daemons.

There's stuff on those posters that I hadn't seen in the rumors before. Marneus can reroll wounds? Because he wields the Talon of Guilleman? I'm gonna enjoy killing marines even more now.

Teek wrote:

MagickalMemories wrote:To me, there is one distressing fact of this whole thread.

From the first image:

"October 2008 is Space Marines month."


WTF? The Imperium invaded Orktober!
Is NOTHING sacred?

Amen man. That's the very first thing I saw, and it's the most disturbing of all the new SM tidbits!

That aside, I'm sorely tempted to pick up a Thunderfire Cannon for it's undeniable conversion power...

While undeniably true, you will be shot with the new Conversion Beamer for such sacrilege!

From far away, no less!

I like the drop pods best of all the new releases.

OT:
But when deploying them after landing can your marines be placed around the edges of the open doors or the main frame.

Also love the grenade launcher on the scout biker, still won't make me take them.

Shiny as it may be, I expect these Marines to compare to the next few 'dexes like a 486 to a Dual Core.

And then we'll never see the end of these threads as Marienz will cry out in pain against Starcannons (H4 AP1, the future Codex: Eldar & Friends) that kills their Marines dead, Slaaneshi units (from the coming Codex: Chaos Legions: Slaanesh) that rape them, and finally (coming in Tantric style) a Dark Eldar Codex that kills them, then rapes them.

All this and more in 40k's 8th ruleset, where we find out (thanks to fluff progression at last!) that Abaddon lost his underwear somewhere in Cadia, meaning that the 13th Crusade was for nothing and Chaos lost again.