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Gleaned the link from Seer (plastic rat):

http://www.war-hammer.com/php/viewthread.php?tid=2726&fpage=1

A few things that popped out at me;

"Scouts can deploy locater beacons which allow for quick Deep Strike Assaults". Emphasis mine....units assaulting the turn they DS?

Scouts can lay booby traps...heard this rumour before but now confirmed.

Chronus in a Crusader will be sick. Ignores shaken/stunned and all of those twin linked weapons fire at BS 5. That's an Ork nightmare.

Tigurius three powers a turn and allows reserve rerolls. This should go over well .

Shrike looks to be a beast...and makes the squad he's with inflitrate.....AND he gives the army fleet. I don't know how useful this is to marines though.

hahaha. space marines, hooooo!!!!!

this just keeps getting better...and more rediculous.

hopefully when it all comes out it plays well and is not just stupid uber.

Biggest thing I saw was:

"Land raiders and drop pods now have an increased capacity of 12 to accommodate 5 terminators and a character in terminator armor."

It appears that this drop pod is going to be for dreadnoughts and thunderfire cannons as well. I am scratching my head about the dreadnought thing though.

I mean. how the hell is it supposed to get out of that 5 door contraption.

Judging by this quip, it seems unlikely that GW will make a dreadnought plastic drop pod. sad.

there is a TON ofvery new info on that site!

nice find!

Hellfury wrote:Biggest thing I saw was:

"Land raiders and drop pods now have an increased capacity of 12 to accommodate 5 terminators and a character in terminator armor."

It appears that this drop pod is going to be for dreadnoughts and thunderfire cannons as well. I am scratching my head about the dreadnought thing though.

I mean. how the hell is it supposed to get out of that 5 door contraption.

Judging by this quip, it seems unlikely that GW will make a dreadnought plastic drop pod. sad.

there is a TON ofvery new info on that site!

nice find!

I still can't get over the wording on the locater beacon. If it means what it says, I could see this happening:

Large Scout biker group turboboost first turn, deploy beacon
Second turn Assault Terminators w/ Chapter Master DS in and assault that turn

Sounds like a specialist rapid assault strike force!

Shocking!

These are just rumors at this point.

And...let's wait to see some points costs before we bust out too many "Spase Marinez!! Hurr!!11!!!" comments.

Please?

AgeOfEgos wrote:I still can't get over the wording on the locater beacon. If it means what it says, I could see this happening:

Large Scout biker group turboboost first turn, deploy beacon
Second turn Assault Terminators w/ Chapter Master DS in and assault that turn

I somewhat agree.

I believe that the locator beacon could very well be just a teleport homer though, much like DA bikes have.

Plus the wording about deepstrike assaults I think you are reading a little much into it perhaps. I don't think it means what you think it means.

I think it is more of an assault in the sense of being a threat, not assault in the way of the GW terminology.

Kind of like: "Fulgrim leads the assault with his army" more than "Fulgrim assaults with his army the same turn they enter the battlefield."

AgeOfEgos wrote:.

Shrike looks to be a beast...and makes the squad he's with inflitrate.....AND he gives the army fleet. I don't know how useful this is to marines though.

I can imagine two or three assault squads jumping their full movement, running a D6, and then assaulting with in another six inches could be a pretty nice ability. I should have stuck with Ravenguard. If DA green wasn't so much better looking then solid black....

Also, it looks like there is a confimation on the price of the drop pod as well.

I don't know what space marines tacticals go for in taiwan, but over here they are $35. This site lists them as J. Drop pods are also price code J.

hence Drop pods $35.

I would say this would be a confirmation of the drop pod price, but the codex is also listed as J on the site as well. We all know the codex is going to be $25.


Hmmm...what to think...what to think....

any one heard anything about the camo cloaks?

"scouts can be equipped with camo cloaks, granting the stealth special rule"

thats pretty nice if its a cheap upgrade

so what about the free specials and heavies in tactical squads that was rumoured could that be the free wargear upgrades they suggest?

hellfire rounds for scout heavy bolters is cool

and the change of the typhoon missile launcher is interesting and makes it a much more plausible choice if it stays cheaper than the assault cannon

Hellfury wrote:Also, it looks like there is a confimation on the price of the drop pod as well.

I don't know what space marines tacticals go for in taiwan, but over here they are $35. This site lists them as J. Drop pods are also price code J.

hence Drop pods $35.

BOLS is listing them for $30.

I don't know how effective they'll be, but I really like the new Scout Bike models, particularly the shotguns and the bike-mounted GL. Vanguard squads get Heroic Intervention to assault when they DS? And Kantor's Stormbolter is Assault 4 AP4? Crazy stuff, mang!

Yeah...but BOLS also get their info primarily from Warseer, Dakka and B&C. Regardless, I am not a fan of the site. Lauded as the place to find rumours, yet they are the ones who usually get the info last.

I am just commenting on how screwy the price is because it is listed as the same price as both the tac squad and codex, which we all know are two separate prices.

Tough 6 and feel no pain on that chap is pretty haus.

The UMs are getting a lot of nice special characters. I hope it clearly spells it out in the book that these characters are supposed to be for any generic marine army to avoid a lot of pointless 'fluff' arguments.

LRs and Drop Pods carrying 6 termies makes up for no more termie command squads.

a bit mistaken on the scout rules there
those special rules (booby traps and locator beacon) are for scout bikers, not scouts

locator beacon just makes units deep striking close to it not scatter

blood angel wrote:Tough 6 and feel no pain on that chap is pretty haus.

The UMs are getting a lot of nice special characters. I hope it clearly spells it out in the book that these characters are supposed to be for any generic marine army to avoid a lot of pointless 'fluff' arguments.

Agreed. I am really kinda tired of the ranting philistine arguments regarding the mixing of different things like that. You want fluff? Go read a fething book.

Eldar set the precedent for this by removing the difference. You can take eldrad and yriel in the same army, why not SM as well?

I am certain there will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth though.

deitpike wrote:
locator beacon just makes units deep striking close to it not scatter

In short it operates exactly like an Icon of Chaos.

In short, it works exactly like a teleport homer, which is what it is.

Hellfury wrote:Yeah...but BOLS also get their info primarily from Warseer, Dakka and B&C. Regardless, I am not a fan of the site. Lauded as the place to find rumours, yet they are the ones who usually get the info last.

You must remember the unwashed masses who are lazy is what BOLS is for.

like a teleport homer, but for any unit deep striking (jump packs, drop pods, terminators, land speeders, etc)
Teleport homer only works for termies "teleport" deep striking

Hellfury wrote:

blood angel wrote:Tough 6 and feel no pain on that chap is pretty haus.

The UMs are getting a lot of nice special characters. I hope it clearly spells it out in the book that these characters are supposed to be for any generic marine army to avoid a lot of pointless 'fluff' arguments.

Agreed. I am really kinda tired of the ranting philistine arguments regarding the mixing of different things like that. You want fluff? Go read a fething book.

Eldar set the precedent for this by removing the difference. You can take eldrad and yriel in the same army, why not SM as well?

I am certain there will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth though.

Hilarious stuff!

Rar rar hurr?

Points costs better go up, that's all I've got to say. WAAAAAAAAAAAGH!

I guess being Chaotic in this day and age means giving up all your fancy equipment so that your younger loyalist brothers get to play with it.

Anyway, don't care about the rules, only that Tigurius is still in the book.

BYE

*drool* scout toys...

I'm starting to see why one person said a while ago that even though the scout squad was downgraded a bit they'd still be worth taking and could get more expensive very quickly... too many toys.

deitpike wrote:like a teleport homer, but for any unit deep striking (jump packs, drop pods, terminators, land speeders, etc)
Teleport homer only works for termies "teleport" deep striking

Hmmm you're right. That does appear to be the distinction.

Shrike=new speed Prince?

Pedor Kantor gives +1 attack to all friendly modles within 12". Ouch

Typhoon is heavy 2. Yay

Thelion pins and rends with a bolter. Hurrr

still no points listit so I em still not shure how over powerd they are if they are over powert only thingI em notising is that evry new codex gets one troop unit that is realy good for its points looks at rumors of tactical squad and looks at the shoota boy's

Ahh.

If this ever gets to 6th Ed., the LEAST GW could do (for the poor, weedy, undernourished, un-loved SM Players with obviously a MASSIVE disadvantage to EVERY other army) would be to inpose some kind of Power for Commanders...

Exterminatus - 60 Pts.

- On a 4+ (OOH RISKY) destroy every single fricking enemy unit.

So what exactly are the benefits for turning traitor again? I can't remember.

Hellfury wrote:Yeah...but BOLS also get their info primarily from Warseer, Dakka and B&C. Regardless, I am not a fan of the site. Lauded as the place to find rumours, yet they are the ones who usually get the info last.

I am just commenting on how screwy the price is because it is listed as the same price as both the tac squad and codex, which we all know are two separate prices.

I like BoLS, because it allows me to keep up with rumors w/o going through 10 pages of neck-beard nerd rage (see above).